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You make the classic mistake...
In reply to Serguei Palto,
5 months ago
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Serguei Palto wrote:
dotborg wrote:
Thomas Kachadurian wrote:
acahaya wrote:
1/200@F2 and ISO 200 with mFT equals 1/200@F4 and ISO 400 with FF, 1/100@F2 and ISO 1600 with mFT equals 1/100@F4 and ISO 3200 with FF, 1/10s@F2 and ISO 6400 with mFT equals 1/10s@F4 and ISO 12800 with FF for equally efficient sensors.
Completely wrong. 1/200 @ f2 with ISO 200 is the exact same thing on any camera. If you try to change your exposure for the format you will end up with poorly exposed photographs.
It's so sad to see people who just discovered photography in the last few years giving out misleading advice. It doesn't matter what format you use, film, digital, 4x5 or 16mm, APS-c or an tiny sensor on a powershot. The amount of light for a correct exposure doesn't change. 1/125 at f4 at ISO 400 is the same thing on any camera. Line them all up and take the same photo at the same time and they will all be identically exposed.
If you take a picture with an E-M5 at ISO 200, 25mm, F2 and 1/200s it will have the same angle of view, depth of field and noise as a picture taken with a Nikon D600 at ISO 800, 50mm, F4 and 1/200s.
You are correct only with respect to the angle of view and the depth of field. The rest is false.
The area of 35mm sensor is approximately 4 times larger than one of m43. It means that at an equal total number of pixels the 35-sensor has only one stop (factor 2, which is the square root of 4) advantage in terms of signal/noise ratio. D600 sensor has 24M pixels. Thus the "size factor" is even less than 2.
Some additional advantage (the final factor can be a bit higher than 2) of SLR cameras compared to mirrorless ones comes from the fact that the SLR-sensors are colder if the live view mode is not used.
...of missing the forest for the trees. We don't compare one pixel from a 16 MP photo to one pixel from a 24 MP photo, but 2 pixels from a 16 MP photo against 3 pixels from a 24 MP sensor, since 2 pixels of a 16 MP photo cover the same portion of the scene as 3 pixels from a 24 MP photo.
What we will find is that the same total amount of light falls on the 2 pixels from the 16 MP photo as falls on 3 pixels from the 24 MP photo, since the same total amount of light falls on the sensor for a given scene, perspective, DOF, and shutter speed, and, as the EM5 and D600 sensors have the same QE (Quantum Efficiency -- the proportion of light falling on the sensor that is recorded). This means that the photon noise (the noise from the light itself) will be the same.
Next, we have read noise (the amount of noise added by the sensor and supporting hardware). As it turns out, this is a function of the ISO setting for many sensors, including the EM5 and D600. At ISO 200 on the EM5 and ISO 800 on the D600, there is actually less read noise for 3 pixels on the D600 than 2 pixels on the EM5 (however, at higher ISOs, the situation reverses).
It's worth noting that the read noise is only significant in the portions of the photo that receive very little light -- the bulk of the photo is dominated by read noise (unless we're talking about very low light photography, or pushing up the shadows a massive amount).
Thus, the total noise for 3 pixels from the D600 at f/4 1/200 ISO 800 will have a tad less noise than 2 pixels from the EM5 at f/2 1/200 ISO 200, and thus for the photo as a whole, as well. However, at higher ISOs, the situation will reverse, and the EM5 will have a slight noise advantage for equivalent photos over the D600.
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