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Re: A breather and Perspective ( A bit OT ) Continued.
In reply to CollBaxter,
5 months ago
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Colin--it was an interesting problem you presented us with and it was fun doing the math. I picked the Sony for comparison as it was the system I was most familiar with. I had an alpha camera for a while and a couple of lenses. Finding equivalents to the Oly glass for comparison is not easy. You are well known on this site for you nature photos, so finding equipment to deliver isn't easy.
The two lenses--the Ziess and the 70-400g come pretty close in terms of focal length and prices. There are some tradeoffs. The 70-400g is pretty close to the 50-200mm with the EC-14. For $10k you could move up to a 500mm f/4. Most of what I have read about the 24-70mm has been positive. The argument seems to be mostly about what premium do you pay for the name. Most people assume the price and name would equal Oly SHG.
The cameras are a problem. The SLT is a lot of fun to shoot. It is rapid fire. I had an A33 and the EVF was not so hot. The features and the rapid fire shooting were a blast. The EVF on the next generation--a77 and a57 is supposed to be an upgrade. The EVF saves bucks on the production side (so I have read)
What I sense from you, Stacey and others, is that you just want a reason to keep the Olympus equipment you love. An E-7--a good old-fashioned modern DSLR would keep you and lots of others happy for several years. The chances for such a camera right now are slim. You are left with hybrid.
CollBaxter wrote:
Craig from Nevada wrote:
illy wrote:
Craig from Nevada wrote:
Big Ga wrote:
CollBaxter wrote:
So I would be looking at around $14000 to replace all my stuff.
Collin - sorry if Ive missed the math somewhere, but is this including what you'd get from selling all your current gear? $14K seems like a new system cost rather than a sell and switch. (I remember reading the posts from a number of pros who went from Canon to Nikon in the last few years and many of them ended up not really having much extra expenditure at all - especially when they replaced what they sold with equivalent second hand gear)
Collin didn't net the cost of a new camera--namely an E-7. It appears other than a camera with a new sensor his kit is complete. Figure $2,000 for a new E-7 if one were ever built. This really appears to be driving a lot of people--see Stacey's post from a couple of weeks ago.
the trouble with an E-7 is that it doesn't exactly exist, using it as a reason why he should keep with Olympus and not move on is a bit hard to describe to be honest. He either waits and gets what's available, or he goes and buys something that is currently being sold. It's not a nice position to be in with all the money he has spent.
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The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.
The E-7 is the problem. It does not exist and never will. Consequently, people have to decide to stick with their current kit at no cost or move on.
People like Stacey and Collin want to either upgrade or move on. Collin and Stacey are saying I want to spend $2k to upgrade my E-5 kit, but can't, so I will move on. In other words the cost for Colin and Stacey to stay with Olympus is the retail price for an E-7 or about $2k.
Assume Collin's kit can fetch 25 cents on the dollar or about $3,500. He should be able to do better. Note: Stacey kept her glass according to a previous post she made.
So Colin has about $5,500 to work with (the cost to stay with Oly plus the net proceeds from his fire sale of Olympus equipment
A57--$548
A77--$1,200
70-400g--$1,900
24-70 Zeiss--$1,900
Sony HVL-F58AM--$500
Sony 50mm macro-- $573
bigma--$1,510
Total--$8,131
Net $2,600 or $4,600 if you buy my story about the opportunity cost to stay with Oly. Figure Colin at least gave up the chance to spend $800 on the Nikon this week.
The A57 is a gold award, the A77 is weather sealed and a silver award. He would have two cameras--top of the line. The Zeiss lens is probably better than the 12-60mm. The 70-400g is a deal and the effect is 1.5 times or about 600mm--Equal to the 50-200mm with the 1.4 EC. The Sony macro is a good little lens. The flash is expensive.
Craig that great and thanks for the info.
We all don't live in the US. I live in South Africa so the only places I can safely buy equipment from on the internet is Adorama and B&H. There are a lot of others on this forum with the same predicament. We can't buy for the cheapest source and get free delivery. When I bring in equipment from B&H I get charged and Extra 10% duty and on top of that an Extra 14% vat
So $1000 = ( 10% Duty ) + (14% VAT) = $1254
We still have to have add freight and clearance charges. The last B&H shipment ( 5Kg) cost me $260
As to your costing I have multiple flashes and a FE and a 35mm and a 135-400 and a whole bunch of other lenses . I have remote triggers ( Olympus Dedicated.) etc. Etc.
Actually the ziess lens is not as good as the 12-60 ( Some reviews )
The other thing is Sony has a EVF . I would use a EVF if forced to use one by using my current lenses ( Olympus) but if I was building a new system I would go with one that still produces OVF cameras.
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Collin
(Aficionado Olympus DSLR )
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