The lesson of Vietnam was so long ago.

Started Dec 25, 2012 | Discussions thread
Ed B
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Re: 58,000 didn't come home ? well...
In reply to René Schuster, Dec 28, 2012

René Schuster wrote:

Ed B wrote:

I'm not disputing anything you've said, but where are you getting these numbers?

60,000 committed suicide and 40,000 addicted to heroin doesn't sound like good information.

The 60,000 suicides I first found in a Spiegel article, the main German news magazine, not known for publishing unverified sources or data. The same number was also mentioned in the German language Wiki article about the Vietnam war, together with the number of the 40k heroin addicts.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/vietnam-trauma-nachts-wenn-die-toten-zurueckkommen-a-685629.html

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamkrieg

A google search "vietnam veterans suicides" led me to a US site "Suicide Wall" that has even worse numbers: 150,000 to 200,000.

http://www.suicidewall.com/suicide-statistics/

From that site:

"In that interview, the doctor related that his estimate of the number of Vietnam Veteran suicides was 200,000 men, and that the reason the official suicide statistics were so much lower was that in many cases the suicides were documented as accidents, primarily single-car drunk driving accidents and self inflicted gunshot wounds that were not accompanied by a suicide note or statement. According to the doctor, the under reporting of suicides was primarily an act of kindness to the surviving relatives.

If the estimate of over 150,000 veterans of the Vietnam War having committed suicide since returning home is true, the figure would be almost three times the number killed in the war. When these deaths are added to the 50,000 plus Vietnam War casualties, the number approaches the 292,000 American casualties of World War II."

Also interesting, from another year 2010 Spiegel article: 300,000 US Iraq/Afghanistan veterans suffer from PTSD. In 2009, more US soldiers died by committing suicide (334) than by enemy action on the Iraq battlefield (149). And already in 2008, military surgeons found that every month about 1,000 US veterans try to committ suicide.

http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/a-684973.html

RS

Not sure where these sites get their information but you might want to read the facts here: http://www.vhfcn.org/stat.html

After reading through this entire thread it's obvious that few people actually know much of anything about the Vietnam War. It's a shame there's so much misinformation.

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