Sony RX1 vs. Fuji X-E1?

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Andrea Crema
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Re: Sony RX1 vs. Fuji X-E1?
In reply to Emacs23, 5 months ago

Emacs23 wrote:

Andrea Crema wrote:

The Fuji XE-1 test chart images shot by DPReview look soft to me. Quite often the tests are with different focal lengths, different apertures and different points of focus. So I don't think that they provide a fair comparison.

I went to my local dealer with my own SD card and shot with the Sony NEX5 and 7 and compared the image quality to the XE1.

The Fuji was incredible. The sharpness and detail was better than both NEX Cameras. Colours especially in respect to AWB were a lot better with the Fuji. I found the NEX images had a yellow tint to them.

The Sony RX1 is a totally different beast and I'd love to get my hands on it to compare image quality.

Don't use crap lenses ;), don't use crap sony jpegs, don't use crap demosaic algorithms (hello Adobe :D). I'm using Leicas (SE 18, Lux 35 asph fle, Lux 50 asph) with NEX and that's why don't see any Fuji magic I rather see (as an RAW processing software developer) intensive PPing, quite nice color profiles (that are not as good as dedicated color profiling apps like DxO FilmPack though), some nice automatic tonal curve selection. Anyway, your statement only shows you have no idea about image processing.

You see what you see. Properly cooked RAW from bayer sensors shows higher resolution in identical conditions from low to middle ISOs. I just did the best for D800E and NEX-5n, and I used RAW processed with C1 which is better in fine detail than Silky from what I have seen (and Silky is better detail wise than OOC JPEG).

I'm surpised to see so much naive people here. Fuji decided to trade ease of high ISO NR for details at base ISO. Pay attention: ease of high ISO NR, not the high ISO itself, you can get about the same IQ with bayer sensor and modern NR software (best way: only chroma NR in raw processor, then NR via Topaz Denoise or another advanced NR software).

I hope Fuji once will stop this X-Trans nonsense.

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whilst an exact and scientific comparison is difficult, granted, I shot all cameras using Raw and Prime lenses. I think your naive in your assumptions.

I used a colour calibrated monitor and processed with different Raw editors for a broader view. It's certainly open to different results and at the moment there are many variables. Maybe with the introduction of the C1 beta we'll see more out of the Fuji RAW files Vs LR.

A new sensor with software that is biased towards the Bayer pattern? I still stand by my statement, unless there has been no modification to the RAW files.

jpg vs jpg IMHO Fuji are better. Crappy fuji kit lens vs crappy sony kit lens, I'll stick with the Fuji.

I hadn't even commented on High Iso performance. At the end of the day I'm seeing excellent results.

The likes of Fuji and Sigma are the company's that are moving beyond the norm, which can only hopefully result in advancements. The software has to catch up. Case in point, see what Nikon can do with a Sony sensor.

I see from your posts your not a fan of the Fuji sensor,

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"strange claim based on crappy picture. And I'm afraid even cheap Sony NEX-C3 beats Fuji in actual resolution."

Have you physically shot with the camera or have you been looking at dpreview test charts?


Edited 5 months ago by Andrea Crema
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