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Re: Continued from It's a shame...
In reply to Sovern,
5 months ago
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Sovern wrote:
dave vichich wrote:
I lost the end of that discussion, so I'll start it up again here.
Pixels:
Xsi (12 MP) has 4272 x 2848
T3i (18 MP) has 5184 x 3456
Nex 7 (24 MP) has 6000 x 4000
I thought that maybe a few real world shots would help.
I have an Xsi, a T3i and a 24mp Nex7 (with a Canon adapter)
I mounted a 100-400 locked at 400mm to a tripod, then mounted each camera to said lens and snapped a pic.
I then loaded those photos into CS6, laid the smaller ones on top of the larger ones, and there you have it, a simple way to see the different size shots. One note, the Sony is a 1.5 crop not a 1.6 like the Canons.
I know these aren't the best focused shots, I last used the T3i and Nex7 outdoors and didn't adjust my settings properly for this comparison. You'll still get the drift.

If you want the full shot:
Dave
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What were the settings? Why does the xsi have the most noise (high iso underxposed noise) yet it has much more detail than then T3i???
The settings for the shots where all over the place, and make no difference. This was to show the real size of a shot make with a certain sized sensor, not my ability to remember to set up each camera the with the same settings.
I think it comes down to sensor size, how in focus the shot is, your PP sharpening technique, lens used, iso/noise, and MP size is somewhere in the middle when it comes to level of importance of cropability and print size that you can make while retaining a high level of detail.
No, it comes down to how many pixels you have when it comes down to cropping.
A lot of 5DClassic users that have the 60D were telling me how they can crop more and make larger prints with their 12MP 5D vs the 18MP 60D and that's due to sensor size alone.
Those 5DClassic owners were drinking well on that day. Ask them to use the same lens, standing in the same place, and shoot the same subject, and say that the 5DC can crop more than a 60D. No way, no how.
It also depends on how far away you are going to sit away from the photo, nobody is going to sit 10" away from their poster sized print pixel peeping or else they're shooting for the wrong reasons.
This is one thing I agree with.
If MP's were the prime concern when it comes to crop ability and print size the cheap point and shoots would be much better than my xsi, the older rebels, the older nikon and canon full frames but this is obviously not the case.
Nobody is talking about point and shoots. A lens mounted to a $100 P&S is not going to be as good as a Canon "L" lens. Obviously this thread was about cropping DSLR shots while using the same lens on those cameras with different MP sensors.
You want me to believe that a 12mp camera crops better than a 18mp one.
That's why a 720 HD tv is so much clearer than a 1080 HD tv. (same size screen now, say 50")
You'll have to show me some of your crops to prove me wrong.
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