What makes a pro body?

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fft81
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Re: What makes a pro body?
In reply to XeroJay, 6 months ago

XeroJay wrote:

fft81 wrote:

XeroJay wrote:

Honestly?

1: Dual media slots.

2: A brand's most rugged and durable components.

3: A brand's most capable AF system.

For these reasons, I do group the D800, D4, 5D3, and 1DX as Pro.

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1. D7000 has 2 card slots

2. D7000 fails here

3. D7000 AF is probably better than AF system of D1, yet D7000 is not a pro body.

Technology, such as AF accuracy/speed, megapixel count, ISO performance will all improve with time and consumer cameras will surpass old pro cameras; but what will old pro cameras will be able to do that new consumer cameras can't? There is a deeper meaning to this question than may appear on the surface: in real world you only need so many mega pixels and you only need so many stops of great ISO. Eventually technology will allow even consumer cameras to reach those limits. At that point the difference of consumer and pro body will be determined by the factors which i am trying to determine/isolate in this thread.

Which is why I wasn't specific in #2 & 3; these things change as manufacturers evolve their products.

You're not being fair here in comparing the obsolete with something state of the art. Even a pro body can't be more that the best that a company can create RIGHT NOW. Of course they'll eventually trick those technologies down to lesser units.

I am doing such comparisons on purpose. The reason is to filter out the technological advantages which are brought fourth by progress; if there is a chance that such advantages will eventually reach saturation point. For example, would you spend $5000 on a pro body that can shoot at 2 million ISO and deliver crystal clear images if consumer model can shoot at 1 million ISO? Probably you would if there are other differences between cameras, but it would be stupid to spend $5000 to JUST go from 1 million to 2 million or even a billion usable ISO.

You want a sure-fire way to tell what ISN'T pro? Unproven, gimmick, or toy-trick features in a camera; the more a camera has, the more consumer-oriented it is.

Right now those things are articulated screens, smile detection, fake photo filters and tilt-shift effects, exposure modes that need little pictures of stick figures and so on. Most of these will never exist on a pro body. (Yeah, that's right: I just said that an articulated screen will probably never exist on a pro body!)

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Good point. The easy use modes and gymmics like face detection are software features to bloat perceived value of consumer product. I agree that they have no place in a pro body. Here is another one for you: "Lytro camera" - shoot now, focus later. It's an interesting technology, eventually i guess a multi mega-pixel sensor could be built, its 1MP now. But i bet traditional sensors will always be able to pack more DR/pixels than the Lytro sensors. Lytro is a gymmic and it will be a gymmic, but eventually a 100MPx Lytro sensor with 6 stop DR will be build. So, if visible, perceived image quality from lytro sensor is not worse than a giga-pixel picture from DSLR of that time, why to use the DSLR. But there will still be a difference between pro body of year 2100 and consumer body; though i doubt giga-pixel rating of the cameras will differentiate the two.

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