NEX-F3 frustration--is this related to ISO 200?

Started Dec 4, 2012 | Questions thread
makeitso
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Re: PP or camera settings make the difference
In reply to ShinyFace, Dec 5, 2012

ShinyFace wrote:

makeitso wrote:

In all honesty the OP appears to know what he/she likes but doesn't seem to know how to get there or what about certain photos draws them to it. With that in mind it's nearly impossible to give a true sense of what needs to be done to accomplish the composition they have in their own head onto a photo. With that in mind you can talk all you'd like but in reality everyone here can only interpret the attributes of examples the OP lists as 'pictures they like ' and hopefully pick out the right traits as the OP is unable to explain why these pictures speak to them.

the people who have responded seem to understand. one can only communicate about this stuff in pictures, anyway. what use is a word like "sharpness" if I don't know exactly what "sharpness" looks like?

That's exactly the point.  You can't define what you like other than by pictures.  Thus you HAVE to post samples and HOPE other people pick up on the same attributes as you are and give you a definition of what traits you're seeing and find appealing.  The whole process relies purely upon others interpreting pictures as you do which isn't possible as they have their own unique perspective.  The better thing to do is actually learn the correct definitions and what goes into creating that look to have productive discussions INSTEAD of this reliance upon other people to define what you like for you.

The bottom line is no lens or camera is going to make you a better photographer. Spend some time with your camera, play around with the creative settings, play around with the sharpness, contrast and saturation settings, play around with picture modes. Figure out what it is you like and find a way to be able to define it. Spend some time on youtube and look at how to videos of composition especially of landscape photos as it seems to be your preference. Read some books on composition and the manual options you have available to you. Become a better photographer since like I said in another post, photography like many other things in life follows (or pretty close) the 80/20 rule. 80% photographer and 20% gear. You can get some stunning photos out of an iPhone, is that an awesome camera in contrast to your NEX? No.

The LAST thing I'd recommend is buying more gear as it honestly won't do you any good. If you're into cars think of it this way. Give Michael Schumacher what you drive to work in and you step into an F1 car. Race around the Nuremberg ring, who will win? Most likely Schumacher even though you're driving a 50+ million dollar machine designed to do one thing. It's the person behind the wheel (or lens in this case) and not the gear they're trying to use. Learn how to use what you have before you decide to just throw money at the problem as it only creates bad habits.

You are completely wrong, or just missing the point. It is all about learning the gear for me, and not about composition at all. What good is having a great eye, when you can't make the camera do what you "see"? A composer can have a super song in his or her head and without the ability to get that song recorded, it just stays in their head. Although there are more tricks to learn, I like my sense of composition, and have been getting many compliments from total strangers for years. This is based on low-end equipment only. I have many good photos from my iPhone and from old cameras including my old film camera. It's ALL about the gear now! I have missed many awesome photo opps because I did not know how to max my gear, and that is what I am trying to do now.

And if you are implying that my buying more gear is like throwing pearls before swine, then I gladly accept your challenge.

This is the problem.  Somehow you think getting $10k worth of gear will somehow make your pictures better.  The unfortunate truth is it's not.  If you don't know how to get the most out of your current gear there's no point in getting better gear.  Will it make your photos marginally better?  Maybe, but spending the time reading a book and understanding WHY the photos turn out the way they do is a much better investment, cheaper too.

Part of having great composition IS understanding the best way to capture what you're looking at.  Not just being able to look at a scene and say "hey, someone can make a great photo of this."  Especially with landscape photography, you can spend quite literally hours or even days trying to find the right angle, lighting, distance, etc. to get what you want even before starting to play with camera settings.  But if you don't understand why certain settings will change the way your picture turns out then what's the point of having these settings?  Play with the creative style part of your camera, see what you like.  How/why is it not producing what you envision, what can you do to help create it.  If want just punchier colors, larger DOF, smoother details and smaller DR then the higher camera you get the less you get of this straight OOC so you very well might be going in the wrong direction for what you want as those are more traits of a P&S.

The bottom line is your gear is better than your skill right now and probably will be for the foreseeable future.  I know you don't want to hear this but until you decide to learn how to use your gear this will never change.  If you believe buying more gear is better for you, then all the power to you.  The whole stance to blame the gear, upgrade it really isn't an approach that will help you get where you want to go.

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