Is the FX revolution fizzling?

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Josh152
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Re: Is the FX revolution fizzling?
In reply to 57even, 5 months ago

57even wrote:

WD wrote:

57even wrote:

JimPearce wrote:

Thom reports soft sales of D600, predicts demise of D800, mentions issues with D4: http://www.bythom.com/ .

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D600 will sweep up a lot of people who had a D7000 and are looking for better IQ on a budget. In the UK it's only around 400 more than the D7000 intro price for a lot more camera.

It's not a pulse racing camera, it will take time to get going. But Nikon desperately need more FX lenses which are affordable because for me this was by far the biggest investment.

If they don't Sigma may be helping them out...

Who among those in these forums make their livelihood form photography? Who prints regularly greater than 20x30? Or 13x19? Who among us has the financial ability to purchase a D800, and 5 premium FX lenses? A minority, I'm sure. So, there is a D600 for those with less to invest but the desire for the "finest image quality"...whether they really need it or not. In that choice they give up other build and performance aspects evident in a DX camera such as the D300.

Undeniably, the new FX cameras are top-tier today in image quality, although one must crop heavily or print huge to readily see that better quality. It's easy to see the difference between a D600/D800 straight out of camera compared to my old D300. But with careful processing, one would have to view the identical photo side-by-side at 11x14 to pick the winner. The D300 isn't crap just because the new FX cameras are here. It's the photograph, not the number or pixels, that matters.

The difference is not just in resolution. The DR of the D600 is way better than the D300 (and even the D700) and high ISO performance is also far better. Truisms don't sell cameras, DxO does. Sadly perhaps, but there you go.

And I can assure you there is a pretty visible difference between 12 and 24 MP in any print over A3.

The sensor in a D300 was the first "pro" CMOS sensor, if my memory serves me. It's ancient by digital standards. Stick the newest technology in a slightly smaller, lighter D400 with all the "pro" goodies and it will sell like the D300 did when it was introduced. Remember that?

Personally I am not sure that there is much of a market for PRO DX sensor cameras any more. I owned a D700 for three years, and the build quality on the D600 doesn't bother me a bit. I could not see the point of the D300 being so big or well built since most pros by then were migrating to D3s. A few will demand it but most wont care.

I cannot really think who would buy a pro 24 MP DX camera instead of an enthusiast 24MP FX camera when the only difference is probably 2FPS and $200. When the D300 and D700 coexisted the price difference was never less than $800.

Exactly, and when you take into account that the vast majority of DX sales are of the entry level models and that those sales largely driven by the low price, it makes no sense to make Expensive pro DX glass either as most people on DX will never buy it.   The tiny number of sports/bird shooters who insist on using DX for the crop factor wont be enough of a market for either a D300 replacement or Pro DX glass.  Beside a D7000 type body with a little larger buffer, 24mp, 39 or 51 AF points, and 8fps will be plenty of camera for that use anyway.

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