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Re: if Total Light Collected is all that matters, then why...

In reply to Andy Crowe, 6 months ago

Andy Crowe wrote:

If total light is more important than sensor quality, how can a new m4/3 camera come so close noise wise to a 7 year old full frame camera (both at ISO3200)?

Because in that time the typical sensor efficiency has improved by about 1 stop and a half.

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Light gathering in M43 vs FF	Peng Bian	6 months ago	1
Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	pgilland	6 months ago
Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	Peng Bian	6 months ago
Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	pgilland	6 months ago	5
Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	Promit	6 months ago	4
Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	Thomas_A	6 months ago
Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	DonParrot	6 months ago	1
All wrong!!!	eques	6 months ago
Re: All wrong!!!	Dr_Jon	6 months ago
Re: All wrong!!!	Dr_Jon	6 months ago
Trying to make sense.	eques	6 months ago
Re: All wrong!!!	bobn2	6 months ago	4
See Klarno and Much-having-fun	eques	6 months ago
Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	s_grins	6 months ago	3
Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	Peng Bian	6 months ago
Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	s_grins	6 months ago	3
Light and luminosity aren't necessarily the same thing	noirdesir	6 months ago
Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	Great Bustard	6 months ago	1
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	s_grins	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	noirdesir	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	s_grins	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	noirdesir	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	s_grins	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	noirdesir	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	s_grins	6 months ago	1
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	noirdesir	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	s_grins	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	noirdesir	6 months ago
That's exactly it!	Great Bustard	6 months ago	2
Re: That's exactly it!	maoyama	6 months ago
Re: That's exactly it!	exdeejjjaaaa	6 months ago
Re: That's exactly it!	Ulric	6 months ago
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Re: That's exactly it!	bobn2	6 months ago	1
Re: Saturation ISO, SOS, and REI (from ISO 12232, published 2005)	Detail Man	6 months ago	4
Re: That's exactly it!	exdeejjjaaaa	6 months ago
Re: That's exactly it!	Great Bustard	6 months ago
Re: That's exactly it!	bobn2	6 months ago	2
Re: That's exactly it!	eques	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	bobn2	6 months ago	2
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	s_grins	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	bobn2	6 months ago	2
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	richarddd	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	bobn2	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	s_grins	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	bobn2	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	Anders W	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, what is the difference ...	Detail Man	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, what is the difference ...	Anders W	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	noirdesir	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	s_grins	6 months ago
Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...	Anders W	6 months ago
I have an answer for you. Now it's your turn.	Great Bustard	6 months ago
Re: I have an answer for you. Now it's your turn.	s_grins	6 months ago
Re: I have an answer for you. Now it's your turn.	Great Bustard	6 months ago
Re: I do not discuss with Bustard.	s_grins	6 months ago
Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.	Great Bustard	6 months ago
Re:Sure! Exposure/ISO deniers deserve a camera without aforementioned controls	s_grins	6 months ago
Still "not discussing", eh?	Great Bustard	6 months ago
Re: Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.	zxaar	6 months ago	2
Re: Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.	Great Bustard	6 months ago
Give it a rest s_grins :)	Beach Bum	6 months ago
Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	Klarno	6 months ago	7
F/1.4 = F/1.4 on all cameras	Just Having Fun	6 months ago	3
Re: F/1.4 = F/1.4 on all cameras	Peng Bian	6 months ago
Re: F/1.4 = F/1.4 on all cameras	tt321	6 months ago	3
Re: F/1.4 = F/1.4 on all cameras	SphericalAberration	6 months ago	1
However, exposure is irrelevant in cross-format comparisons.	Great Bustard	6 months ago
Nonsensical response	Beach Bum	6 months ago
Total light doesn't tell you anything about sensor performance	Andy Crowe	6 months ago
Re: Total light doesn't tell you anything about sensor performance	Great Bustard	6 months ago
Re: Total light doesn't tell you anything about sensor performance	noirdesir	6 months ago
Yes......	tedolf	6 months ago	2
Re: Yes......	Peng Bian	6 months ago
Well then......	tedolf	6 months ago	2
Re: Well then......	Peng Bian	6 months ago	1
Re: Well then......	jcharding	6 months ago	1
Re: Well then......	tedolf	6 months ago	2
Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	Macx	6 months ago
Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	tt321	6 months ago
Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	Macx	6 months ago
yes	tko	6 months ago
Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	Great Bustard	6 months ago	1
Very, very simple:	Great Bustard	6 months ago	2
Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	hdkhang	6 months ago
Correct information doesn't pay on this forum...	Beach Bum	6 months ago	1
Re: Correct information doesn't pay on this forum...	jcharding	6 months ago
Really only one truth...	Beach Bum	6 months ago	1
Re: Really only one truth...	jcharding	6 months ago
Perhaps true with DSLRs...	Beach Bum	6 months ago
Re: Really only one truth...	ljfinger	6 months ago
Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	BSweeney	6 months ago
Bring back the thumbs down. :)	Beach Bum	6 months ago	2
Re: Bring back the thumbs down. :)	BSweeney	6 months ago	3
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Sensor performance, not just sensor size	Andy Crowe	6 months ago
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Re: Sensor performance, not just sensor size	ljfinger	6 months ago	1
Re: The Dark Ages of High Technology and Little Reasoning ...	Detail Man	6 months ago
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Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	s_grins	6 months ago
Re: Light gathering in M43 vs FF	Great Bustard	6 months ago
Light density / exposure parameters are the same, "total light" doesn't really matter	Andy Crowe	6 months ago
Total Light Collected is all that matters.	Great Bustard	6 months ago
if Total Light Collected is all that matters, then why...	Andy Crowe	6 months ago
I did not say...	Great Bustard	6 months ago
Missed that line, my apologies	Andy Crowe	6 months ago
Re: Missed that line, my apologies	Great Bustard	6 months ago
Re: if Total Light Collected is all that matters, then why...	misolo	6 months ago
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