Xtrans - OOC Jpegs - Raw - Oh My!

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nixda
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Re: Xtrans - OOC Jpegs - Raw - Oh My!
In reply to framus, 6 months ago

framus wrote:

nixda wrote:

framus wrote:

nixda wrote:

framus wrote:

David,

Here's what I'm learning. The OOC Jpegs are more demanding of exposure and the various settings one can make (highlight/shadow tone, color level, film type). As a long time Raw shooter I'm finding I have to treat the Jpegs like I used to deal with slide film. The Raw files are more like negative film and more forgiving. Raw files have spoiled me. The in-camera raw conversion utility is excellent for exploring and learning the Jpeg variables.

I think this is the wrong way to look at it. the RAW files are not more forgiving than the JPEGs. Rather, the JPEGs represent a restriction compared to the RAW files. And that restriction is completely unnecessary. You captured the image properly if it can be rendered properly from the RAW file. If it can't be rendered properly starting with the JPEG file, but can be rendered properly starting with the RAW file, your technique is not at fault. After all, the data are fully there in the RAW file. There seems to be some mythical perception that, if one can't get a decent ooc-JPEG image one's technique must be flawed. Total nonsense.

I dont understand. Can you explain?

-Framus

Why do you think about RAW as 'more forgiving'? Why don't you think about JPEG as restricting instead? Why would you make the job harder for yourself by sticking with JPEG and the 'more demanding exposure and the various settings one can make', when that is a result of artificially confining yourself to an outdated format?

Your questions are not helping me to understand your point. Please explain.

-Framus

Ok, I'll try again.

You are saying that the OOC JPEGs are more demanding of exposure and the various settings one can make'. More demanding than shooting in RAW, as far as I understand your post. But by shooting JPEG you are essentially limiting yourself, because you need to take the on-camera processing engine into account and what it might do to the data as captured, before taking the shot.

When you say (paraphrased) 'JPEGs are more demanding with respect to exposure', you indicate that it happens (occasionally/sometimes/often) that the JPEG engine creates a suboptimal image whereas you can get a proper image from the RAW file.

When you consider RAW to be more 'forgiving', you imply that you could commit 'sins', so to say, when shooting in RAW and get away with it. What I am saying is that shooting in RAW does not allow to commit sins either, and that you in fact haven't committed any sins when the RAW file encodes a proper image, despite the fact that the JPEG engine might not be able to create that proper image. There is nothing to forgive if the RAW file gives you a proper image. You made a successful exposure.

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