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Re: Tell me, Peng, what is the difference...
In reply to bobn2,
6 months ago
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bobn2 wrote:
s_grins wrote:
bobn2 wrote:
s_grins wrote: For folks like you and bustard, who think that exposure is irrelevant and ISO is outdated, I'd (I would because I can't) offer the camera without Exposure compensation and without ISO. Capture as much light as you wish, and do your photo in PP. You both deserve it.
That is broadly the way that I work. It is better. The only difference is that I do the work in 'P', not 'PP' and it takes but an instant, a press of a button. Though my camera has both an ISO control and exposure compensation using those to try and tweak exposure to a desired output using pre-selected processing is much more laborious than concentrating at capture time on the optimal exposure for the capture and doing the tweaking in processing, where there are much more sophisticated, powerful and easier to use tools available.
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Bob
Nice admission. So, you use ISO and exposure.
Wrong. I don't use 'ISO' and exposure is just what is. But what you said was 'Exposure compensation'. I don't use that. Never have.
Now, how do you use your equivalent formulas when you take the shot?
Why would I use my 'equivalent formulas' to take a shot? Equivalence only comes into effect when you try to compare the picture taking abilities of two systems. So, I'd need to use equivalence to work out how to set the f-number for the DOF I wanted when using different formats. Other than that, if you are setting the f-number directly for the DOF you want, and the shutter speed for the motion blur you want, equivalence hardly comes into it, unless I wanted to ask myself 'if I was doing this on another format, to get the seam result, which f-number and ISO would I need to set', except of course, as above, I don't use ISO.
How do you plug your theory into real photography?
What I aim to do is determine the f-number and shutter speed for the pictorial effect (DOF motion blur) that I want. That determines the exposure and I don't set it any lower (except to ensure that the sensor isn't saturating).
And show me the picture.
OK.
This

and this

both taken from about 10 meters apart using the same ISO setting (100) and same f-number (2.8). Shutter speed different to avoid saturating the sensor.
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Bob
Holly crap!
for both shots like these you do not need "DOF motion blur"
In plain language, you approach is not different that others, your photos do not show any superiority, your theory does not contribute to your practical photography. Your whole attitude is a big hollow .
I wish I had a camera for you that has electrons count instead of ISO and exposure.
And BTW I compare photos using my eyes. I do not need your formulas.
For each his own
Chao
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I’m surprised how much Wikipedia contributes to the forum.
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