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Re: The waiting is killing me !!
In reply to amvrvd,
6 months ago
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And doesn't the success of the E-M5 show that they were right too ??
Maybe that's because it's the only option with integrated EVF, people have no alternatives, also, the weather sealing is a big selling point as is the 5 axis IBIS. The EM5 is not attractive solely because it's SLR shaped, it's more about its unique features IMO.
My right eye is the dominant one.. I couldn't hold a camera with a VF on the left-hand side .. the position is just to ackward for me. Am I tghe only one .. definitely not .. So what do we do now ? Ergonomics is something very subjective.. what you want in terms of ergonomics is not applicable to everybody.. You need to understand that.. And Olympus is not going to build cameras with VF on the left-hand side and right-hand side to please everybody. Let me also tell you that DSLRs had (for obvious reasons) their OVF in the middle.. as far as I know.. this hasn't bothered the majority of us..
Well, that's contradictory, I'm right eye dominant too and that's precisely one of the reasons why I like the idea of left-corner EVF, in which case you don't have to put your face so close to the right side of the camera and free up space for your hand to reach the controls. Besides, I don't see any Fuji or Sony customers complaining about the EVF location. See Below:
Centered EVFs are a terrible idea in terms of ergonomics, people are so used to DSLRs that they have this delusion that any other alternative is flawed but this is nonsense. As you can see above, a left sided EVF is good for everyone, it leaves plenty of space for the hand to confortably reach every control, contrary to centered VFs that leave little to no space at all and make you push your nose against the screen ( unless you are Voldemeort this concerns everyone). Also, Left side EVFs allow you to monitor your surroundings more comfortably.
Look up the word : "Product differenciation". Panas range of product is now pretty large.. you should find a camera that (almost) fits your needs.. You want an (I suppose embedded) EVF on the GFx line.. well, that why you have the Gx (or GHx) line..
That's your view of things, IMO it's quite the contrary: it's either P&S alternatives (yes, the GX1 included) and faux DSLR wannabes. There's no product for photo enthusiasts (video OTOH, it's wonderful).
People complained that the GH2 offered insufficient stability for video. Panasonic created a larger body.. All other bodies have been miniaturised (compare the GF1 to a GF2/GF3). Olympus hasn't introduced a DSLR style body at all (I don't consider the E-M5 to look like a DSLR). Furthermore, they continued with the E-PM2 which further miniaturised the mFT bodies..
What ? are you serious ? the GH2 unstable ? have you held one ? it was small by VDSLR standards sure, that was part of the appeal IMO, but unstable ? besides, serious hybrids as the GH2/3 would be used inside a cage or in conjunction with stabilizers anyway, so making the GH3 bigger was unnecessary. And your second point, seriously ? the EM5 is the most blatant OM tribute there could be.
Panasonic/Olympus have already what I consider to be a very diversified product line .. sufficiently diverse to already confuse people.. I don't think that introducing marginally different bodies is a good business move.
That's what they've been doing for years, why is it a problem now ? besides, where's the damage in integrating an EVF into the existing E-Px line ? they're not introducing a new line like the with OMD, they're just adding 1 single feature, that's it. People talk as if this would hurt their sales...what does it matter, if they sell more E-P5s than OMDs that's all the same to Olympus, that money goes to the very same pocket, they might even sale more units and make up for the price difference (if there's any).
As it is now, instead of alluring existing M4/3 users with their own RF-styled cameras they're losing market opportunities while Sony and Fuij sell theirs. So far the only thing holding back people from jumping to other systems is AF and lack of lenses, all of which will be easily corrected within a year or two. How long has it been for Oly and Pany since they've had EVFs technology along with compact bodies ? that's been the case since the G1 and GF-1 for Pany and since the E-P2 and VF-2 for Oly, that's a loooooooong time.
I therefore ask you to consider whether or not the faux rangefinder style with integral EVF on one side of the camera body is perhaps a desire for a small minority (vocal as ever), rather than a significant market size group of photographers?
People justify they grudge against RF-styled mirrorless saying that people asking for them are nostalgic, well let me tell you, I'm in my 20s and have no nostalgic feelings for rangefinders, at all. I find leicas bulky and uncomfortable, I had an M3 and sold it after some time, In fact, I find old SLRs are a lot better as a system, I still have and use an old Canon AE-1, so in terms of nostalgia I should've bought an E-M5, but I haven't, because humps and SLR ergonomics don't make any sense in mirrorless (IMO).
The thing is, Sony Fuji did not have existing customers yet introduced EVF into their cameras, people argue that Oly know their market research yet they're the only ones besides Pany that have not answered to this (seemingly nonexistent according to cynics) demand. I'm sure Fuji, Sony & Nikon just love to venture into unknown markets with no research and just waste their R&D in hopes that something will stick to the wall...
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