I Think its Time for Canon to Start Using Sony Sensors...

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R Johns
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Re: No, please, not ever!
In reply to BCnaturephoto, 6 months ago

BCnaturephoto wrote:

Karl Gnter Wnsch wrote:

R Johns wrote:

As an avid Canon DSLR/Lens owner, I say this with no disrespect, but it is time for Canon to consider using Sony sensors in the DSLRs.

No, it's not! Sony sensors have a rubbish characteristic. The photos need so much processing and the high DR is in fact detrimental to the image quality - only a very small range of photos benefit from the insane DR spread these sensors capture, for the rest the cost is the need to revert the idiotic balance the manufacturers struck and work around the problems this creates (tone value discontinuity being the worst)...

Regarding Canon's 1.6crop sensor, it is now in its 4th iteration (7D > 60D > 600D > 650D) with no appreciable increase in DR, ISO, bit depth performance.

Well, ISO, DR and bit depth must be in balance. On Sony sensors this balance has been overly shifted towards DR.

Before digital sensors were rampant everybody who knew a bit about photography used Fuji Velvia or similarly balanced film emulsions, they had little DR (5 stops) but in 99.9% of the photos they simply worked to create stunning photos that were presentable out of the box. The casual snapshooter loaded a negative film with higher dynamic range but produced roll after roll of lackluster images and wondered why his photos weren't up to the standards seen in glossy magazines. Now it's the same story again: Sony sensors are the equivalent of those negative film emulsions - they produce lackluster images but because everybody now has the ability to develop the images you can work around some of the limitations. But I still prefer those sensors that need less work to generate a good photo in 99.9% of uses because the manufacturer struck the correct balance...

Even with Canon's latest, greatest FF sensors, it's as if they've hit a brick wall...

No, they just concentrate on what photographers need, good image quality for 99.9% of photos. The sensors are excellent, just not in moronic and irrelevant test setups like the DxO one.

This rubbish, synthetic measurement should be banned from being spread! It's misleading and has no relevance for real life use of the cameras!

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Karl Günter Wünsch

That's an excellent point everyone seems to forget. Back then to compensate for extremes in exposure, especially in landscapes, we never had HDR, so we used these strange things called split neutral density filters, and an odd technique called bracketing.

People also get caught up too much in lab tests, and never look at real world photos, especially large prints.

Tell us how you really feel, Karl... lol

Hey, I'm not here to ruffle feathers. That's not my perogative. I do appreciate the responses, even though some may be a little exaggerated. If you think Canon sensors are great, that's cool with me...

Regards,

Russ

Edited 6 months ago by R Johns
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