LV mode and Low Vibration mode in DSLR cameras, Nikon, Canon, Sony Locked

olyflyer wrote:

I also know this, so again, why wasting time with stating the obvious?

That's just BS as far as I am concerned. Again, you are far too emotional AND personal, using words like "lovers". True, I am not a camera lover; I love people, human beings. I like photography, but for me a camera is a tool, not something I love. Never the less, I LIKE cameras, but I am not a camera collector, so I get rid of cameras I no longer have use for. In my opinion it is immature and childish to buy a lot of junk just to be able to brag "I own this and that". Do that if you like, it's your money you are wasting, I use my money a different way and I am happy with my life that way. Anyway, if your life suits you that's fine by me, I don't expect to convert you to live mine, but please don't try to convince me that I should live the way you live.

Again, "spamming" is an action, not an expression of emotional condition. Saying you are spamming is NOT prejudice because it describes something you do, not something you are assumed to do. You can dismiss my comment if you like, but that's up to you. I can be wrong, the two threads may be different, but since the first one was very loooooonnnnnngggg (an OP with 13 865 characters is far too long, regardless of the subject) to me it looked very similar = spam. Your second thread (this one) is even worse, not because of the length but because of the great number of links to long, more or less interesting "evidence" about the Canon.

I found nothing about Nikon or vibrations in D800, except that dubious image you included in that other thread, which more looks like having been done with a Windows sound recorder, using a stereo microphone than measurements of vibrations induced by camera.

Sorry, I think you are 100% wrong in your assumption once again. Canon created the electronic first shutter because they could not at that time make a fully electronic shutter. There is no advantage in it at all compared to a fully electronic shutter, which eliminates 100% of the vibrations and the sound caused by the shutter. So once again, no, I am not interested in a Canon solution, I want something better.

Perhaps I am wrong and I really not understand the advantages of electronic first curtain shutter, just like you are saying, but then instead of telling me how stupid I am and making a lot of assumptions about me and wasting time stating the obvious, you should in your own words explain the advantages over the fully electronic shutter. I am pretty sure that if there are any advantages it can be explained with a few words and many more people would be interested in participating in the discussions.

I do not destroy anything. I express my opinion about the thing you want, which I think is my right. That invention was very revolutionary when it came but since then, I think technology evolved and there are better solutions.

Exactly what I am trying here, but it seems impossible to do it with you because are wasting time with your emotional expressions.

Fine. And why exactly would that be better than a fully electronic shutter, which could be selected by the user just like in the V1? In the V1 you can select whichever you like, with the electronic you can have 10fps with AF on each shot or 60 fps with AF on the first image or shutter speed down to 1/16,000s (yes, 1 over sixteen thousand seconds) and a totally silent camera apart from the aperture movement and the VR, which are also very quiet and can be switched off. The electronic shutter does not change the image quality in the Nikon 1, and of course, that would not be acceptable.

Wouldn't that be better in high end Nikon DSLRs as well? It would give you vibration free shooting. Isn't that what you are interested in?