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not when
In reply to Mark Smith,
7 months ago
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Mark Smith wrote:
Mako2011 wrote:
I disagree here, I think the nature of the medium is vital, whether you paint in oils or watercolour does have an effect on the final result and is key to making your intent an artistic reality.
I would disagree as to the medium being key. If the intent is to convey "charm", it can be done equally well in any medium.....depending on the skill of the artist.
This is obviously wrong. Do you think Van Gogh could paint his sunflowers in watercolours? Do you think what can be defined by some as 'charm' can be replicated by skill alone? Sorry I can't agree.
If Van Gogh really wanted to convey "Charm" in watercolors....I most certainly think he could
Take those people who shoot with Lo-fi cameras such as iPhones or plastic lens disposable cameras or Diana Lomo types the 'quirkyness' of those devices character is key in the creative process, no amount of Photoshop skill can make those devices better than they are and their choice is part of the creative process for some.
But those same devices are certainly able to convey the artists intent. You can do it with any medium or device...there are many a statue of beer cans and many a iPhone pic to demonstrate that.
No, if you shoot with a plastic lens on a 110 and your intent is to make grainless 20x16's do you think any amount of artistic skill can help?
Yes...if it simply "charm" your after...the grain won't get in the way of a real artist.
I disagree with your second statement also, in 30+ years I've never met a photographer who looks in disdain at 35mm for looking sterile in relation to medium format, I'd say the reverse is true.
I would say that 35mm does indeed appear flat and sterile...relative to medium format film just as APS-C can appear that way in comparison to FF....relatively speaking. The "relative" universe might be a very narrow one though.
Then you need some experience of 35mm. The smaller the format the more 'quirky' in my opinion.
I have enough...opinions simply differ.
No way could 35mm be considered sterile and perfect compared to MF–because that's what the OP is talking about, imperfections and limitations giving artwork a 'signature' rather like miniature format photographers pumping up contrast and grain as was the fashion in the 1970's.
Not true at all...there are many cases where 35mm can be considered flat and sterile. A matter a relevance and depends on the example. Op even provide one very flat and sterile example.
Most photographers consider 35mm to be less sterile than MF to a point where smaller format cameras with simple plastic lenses like the Lomo ones are celebrated for those characteristics.
A stretch
Well Lomo seem to be making a small fortune from imperfection, apps exist to give you soulless images interest by faking light leaks and poor ageing characteristics–you may think it's a stretch when the whole raison d'etre for those apps is to add character to otherwise bland snaps.
I don't consider Lomo "most"
Medium choice and workflow can be critical in the creation of artwork, and certainly are not something to be dismissed as 'Kool aid'!
Depends....I still say the choice of medium can be a random thing and make little difference...the person using/shaping the medium is what is critical.
The medium can be part of the creative process, the person shaping it is important sure. But having tools you can use to get you vision into reality is also key
Not when you put your mind to it and only have a desert island to work with.
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