I was in the same dilemma. I went with the 5r not only cause I got a deal on it but I dont think I needed to pay the extra money just for a pop up flash and EVF which I really dont need as I am not a professional. The 5r is perfect for learning. I have been playing around with it and am obsessed with it, I take it everywhere, and I keep learning new things about the camera. The two cameras are going to have the same exact picture quality. And I also have been seeing that you really dont need a flash as you can adjust certain setting like shutter speed, ISO, and white balance which make a much brighter picture. I'm new using a camera like this so this is from a first timers perspective.