Let's stop the myth

Started Apr 22, 2012 | Discussions thread
Sdaniella
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shooters simply have to learn to use their dSLRs... that's all
In reply to aftab, Apr 23, 2012

aftab wrote:

Let's take this D800 picture from IR. ISO 100, +0.3 EV.

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This is broad daylight, btw.

that's no surprise, as that is when contrast is highest... 'btw'.

So, the morals of the story is?

1. We don't have an ideal sensor yet. We don't know who will get there first. Both Canon and Nikon sensors

have limitations on handling bright light high contrast capture, if set properly (which the examples did not exhibit at all; but default high contrast capture was used... as usual).

in order to improve comparisons, one really should be comparing like-with-like, that is, like sensor capture with like sensor capture. if one has a default sensor capture that is low, and another one, that is KNOWN to be set higher then even previous model, then why not set BOTH to their optimal contrast capture settings??? that is, the lowest possible for RAW/JPEGs? after all, such settings DO ALTER RAW, not just JPEGs. this is true for both stills AND video capture.

2. We shouldn't lift shadows and look at them at 100% when we don't need to. More often than not shadows are part of a scene. They are better left undisturbed.

basically, nobody should be deliberately or inadvertently sabotaging a high contrast scene captured in the wrong sensor capture mode... and 'default' (which is much higher contrast than optimal for a high contrast scene is NOT it).

nothing wrong with desiring a 'low contrast outcome', this is why anyone pursues 'shadow lifting' to begin with, however, it makes absolutely no sense to make that attempt less than optimal by having captured in the WRONG HIGH CONTRAST setting to begin with.

3. Knowing your tool and good technique will help both Canon and Nikon users.

LOW CONTRAST CAPTURE SETTINGS may look 'strange' or 'flat' when in fact upon scrutiny, it in fact looks a lot more useable for redialing in any higher contrast effect (as well as any desired shadow/highlight clipping that comes with deliberate high contrast pp end effects).

in the old days RAW was truly RAW, and there was no way to alter capture settings, except JPEG 'renderings'. so all RAW ALWAYS looked FLAT no matter what settings, even for high contrast scenarios. now RAW does go through some alteration due to the fact one can have capture settings altered, such as CONTRAST.

at the moment to argue who has the 'better sensor', much will depend on your shooting objectives, in great bright light (high contrast) or in extreme low light (much lower contrasts involved) but adding artificial light shift it to a high contrast situation. as long as you have illumination whether it is sunlight, indirect or direct artificial lighting, it is considered 'good light'.

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