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Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?

Started Feb 9, 2012 | Discussion thread

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highyoyo

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Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?

Feb 9, 2012

It seems there is a lot of discussion about the impossibility of making optically fast lenses in a size that is compatible with the mFT.

My question is, do we really need them now?

With ISOs to 12800 and 5 stop IBIS, the speed would seem moot.

So that leaves bokeh - but it seems more and more that bokeh and sharpness are controlled by software - either in camera for jpg's or out of camera for PP.

So, are these large optically fast lenses really needed now?

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Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	highyoyo	Feb 9, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	RGBphotomn	Feb 9, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	TedKurkowski	Feb 9, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	amalric	Feb 9, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	dgrogers	Feb 9, 2012
yes, for DoF control	rovingtim	Feb 9, 2012
Re: yes, for DoF control	amalric	Feb 9, 2012
Re: yes, for DoF control	CollBaxter	Feb 9, 2012
Re: yes, for DoF control	amalric	Feb 9, 2012
What is the obsession with 4/3rds lenses?	rovingtim	Feb 9, 2012
Re: What is the obsession with 4/3rds lenses?	amalric	Feb 9, 2012
Re: What is the obsession with 4/3rds lenses?	CollBaxter	Feb 9, 2012
Re: What is the obsession with 4/3rds lenses?	amalric	Feb 9, 2012
world of your own	rovingtim	Feb 9, 2012
Re: world of your own	amalric	Feb 9, 2012
what do you mean by 'lost a war'?	rovingtim	Feb 11, 2012
Clarification	highyoyo	Feb 9, 2012
Re: Clarification	highyoyo	Feb 9, 2012
Re: Clarification	revio	Feb 9, 2012
For this forum it should be	rovingtim	Feb 10, 2012
Re: yes, for DoF control	olympian_dp	Feb 11, 2012
Diffraction calculator	Panda9	Feb 13, 2012
Diffraction may not matter	dave gaines	Feb 13, 2012
Re: Diffraction calculator	olympian_dp	Feb 14, 2012
What you will see...	Great Bustard	Feb 14, 2012
On diffraction.	Great Bustard	Feb 13, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	Skeeterbytes	Feb 9, 2012
I do.	TheEye	Feb 9, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	Jay Jenner	Feb 9, 2012
In a word...YES	Dan	Feb 9, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	Joesiv	Feb 9, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	ShatteredSky	Feb 9, 2012
I remember a Ben Herman Statment.	CollBaxter	Feb 10, 2012
some possible good news for you	rovingtim	Feb 10, 2012
No...	Tbolt47	Feb 10, 2012
I think shallow DOF is a lot of hooey...	bobbarber	Feb 10, 2012
Re: I think shallow DOF is a lot of hooey...	Joesiv	Feb 10, 2012
Re: I think shallow DOF is a lot of hooey...	BDTROUT	Feb 10, 2012
Re: I think shallow DOF is a lot of hooey...	searun	Feb 10, 2012
Re: I think shallow DOF is a lot of hooey...	CollBaxter	Feb 10, 2012
Re: I think shallow DOF is a lot of hooey...	illy	Feb 11, 2012
agreed	John_A_G	Feb 10, 2012
Those who did, still will	Art_P	Feb 10, 2012
Re: Those who did, still will	amalric	Feb 10, 2012
Re: Those who did, still will	CollBaxter	Feb 10, 2012
Re: Those who did, still will	amalric	Feb 10, 2012
Re: Those who did, still will	CollBaxter	Feb 10, 2012
Nearly missed this.	CollBaxter	Feb 10, 2012
Re: Nearly missed this.	amalric	Feb 10, 2012
Re: Nearly missed this.	CollBaxter	Feb 10, 2012
Re: Nearly missed this.	amalric	Feb 10, 2012
Re: Nearly missed this.	CollBaxter	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Nearly missed this.	amalric	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Nearly missed this.	Jolly Oly	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Nearly missed this.	amalric	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Nearly missed this.	Jolly Oly	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Nearly missed this.	amalric	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Nearly missed this.	Jolly Oly	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Nearly missed this.	amalric	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Nearly missed this.	Jolly Oly	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Nearly missed this.	amalric	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Nearly missed this.	Jolly Oly	Feb 12, 2012
but I do	rovingtim	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Those who did, still will	Moti	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Those who did, still will	amalric	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Those who did, still will	Moti	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Those who did, still will	amalric	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Those who did, still will	Moti	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Those who did, still will	eaa	Feb 11, 2012
ISO 12800 is not a serious option	Sierra Dave	Feb 10, 2012
Re: ISO 12800 is not a serious option	amalric	Feb 10, 2012
Re: ISO 12800 is not a serious option	Moti	Feb 10, 2012
Re: ISO 12800 is not a serious option	amalric	Feb 10, 2012
Re: ISO 12800 is not a serious option	Moti	Feb 10, 2012
Re:I'll believe it when I see it	JLTaylor	Feb 11, 2012
Re:I'll believe it when I see it	Rriley	Feb 17, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	chasfox	Feb 10, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	Michael M Fliegel	Feb 10, 2012
yes I want those [nt]	Mr.NoFlash	Feb 10, 2012
Depends on who 'we' are, no?	Great Bustard	Feb 10, 2012
the 'good enough' line	rovingtim	Feb 11, 2012
Re: the 'good enough' line	Great Bustard	Feb 11, 2012
oops	rovingtim	Feb 11, 2012
Re: oops	Great Bustard	Feb 11, 2012
Re: oops	rovingtim	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	Barry Stewart	Feb 11, 2012
for sure yes	Franka T.L.	Feb 11, 2012
well - show me nice Software bokeh ;-)	antoineb	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	Linnin	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	CharlesB58	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	amalric	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	CharlesB58	Feb 11, 2012
Bokeh...	Great Bustard	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Bokeh...	Bob_tracks	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Bokeh...	Jolly Oly	Feb 11, 2012
Re: Bokeh...	eaa	Feb 11, 2012
Thanks all! A few more comments...	Great Bustard	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Thanks all! A few more comments...	eaa	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Bokeh...	Moti	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Bokeh...	CollBaxter	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Bokeh...	fivekatz	Feb 12, 2012
Primes vs zooms	Great Bustard	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Bokeh...	Great Bustard	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Bokeh...	amalric	Feb 12, 2012
Eh?	Great Bustard	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Eh?	CollBaxter	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Eh?	Great Bustard	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Eh?	amalric	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Eh?	Great Bustard	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Eh?	amalric	Feb 12, 2012
Another lovely pet name.	TheEye	Feb 12, 2012
No surpise, of course.	Great Bustard	Feb 12, 2012
Re: No surpise, of course.	illy	Feb 12, 2012
Re: No surpise, of course.	Great Bustard	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Eh?	windsprite	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Eh?	amalric	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Eh?	Great Bustard	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Eh?	windsprite	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Eh?	amalric	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Eh?	windsprite	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Eh?	Moti	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Eh?	windsprite	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Eh?	Moti	Feb 13, 2012
Re: Eh?	Great Bustard	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Eh?	windsprite	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Eh?	Great Bustard	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Eh?	Louis_Dobson	11 months ago
Outstanding set!	Ray Soares	Feb 16, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	Tony Finnerty	Feb 12, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	flarsson	Feb 16, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	amalric	Feb 16, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	TedKurkowski	Feb 17, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	amalric	Feb 17, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	TheEye	Feb 17, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	amalric	Feb 17, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	TheEye	Feb 17, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	Bob_tracks	Feb 17, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	olympian_dp	Feb 17, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	Bob_tracks	Feb 17, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	amalric	Feb 17, 2012
Re: Do we still need large, optically fast lenses?	zigorus	Feb 17, 2012
No, so sell me yours (n/t)	acwalbur	11 months ago
High ISO does not turn a slow lens into a fast lens.	TrapperJohn	11 months ago
Re: High ISO does not turn a slow lens into a fast lens.	Rikke Rask	11 months ago
"Need" maybe less so, but "want" : yes	RoelHendrickx	11 months ago
I missed this thread back in Feb.	SirSeth	11 months ago

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