CES 2012: Canon stand report

Canon shows its full range of DSLRs, compact cameras, video cameras and printers at its large stand in the Central Hall. Visitors can follow presentations by professional photographers and admire their work in the Canon Gallery.

In the absence of any DSLR announcements the large- sensor mirrorless PowerShot G1 X is Canon's star at the show and the focus of visitor attention. The only other new camera announcements for the 2012 CES are the ELPH 520 HS (IXUS 500 HS in Europe) and the ELPH 100 HS (IXUS 125 HS in Europe). The former is the World's slimmest 12x zoom camera and offers a 28-336mm equivalent lens range, the latter is built around a 16MP CMOS sensor and offers a 5x, 24-120mm equivalent lens.

Visitors can have a peek through the long tele lenses at the Canon stand. As usual the Rebel DSLRs draw a lot of attention but at this CES...
Presentations are given on the stage... ...and in the Canon Gallery some impressive photography by Canon photographers in on display.
 ...the G1 X large sensor compact is the star at the Canon stand. The G1 X is visually very similar to the G12 enthusiast compact camera...
 ...and comes with a tilting and swiveling screen.  
 Canon ELPH 110 HS / IXUS 125 HS  
Canon ELPH 520 HS / IXUS 500 HS  

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Total comments: 42
nuance
By nuance (Jan 13, 2012)

The G1X is a bit of a disappointment. I like the move to big sensor compacts, but concerning ergonomics/design this is a step back. They removed the ISO dial fom the G12 and a mechanical zoom would have been nice!

In this respect Fuji is doing many things right with their X Line at the moment. Thumbs Up!

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snake_b
By snake_b (Jan 22, 2012)

Like massive problems with each of them in the x-series? That's doing things right?

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donthasslethehoff
By donthasslethehoff (Jan 12, 2012)

Where is the technology leadership from Canon? CaNikon are Sony's whipping boys right now because, at least with regard to consumer level DSLR's, the latest ILC/DSLR models from Sony cream the equivalent Nikon and Canon offerings.

Canon, where art thou? I say this as a Canon shooter. If they don't update those DSLR's in the next 6 months, they're going to cede ground that they likely won't recover... including me.

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mantra
By mantra (Jan 12, 2012)

may i ask a question?
where and when did canon present his eos flagship 1dx ?

thanks

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aaaja
By aaaja (Jan 12, 2012)

"mirrorless"? what an unword! - why not "coffeeless" or maybe "tireless"??

So please guys stop that please..i beg

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TK Chan
By TK Chan (Jan 12, 2012)

Can't agree more!!!

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tlinn
By tlinn (Jan 12, 2012)

If you're going to quote Trey Ratcliff, at least provide attribution...

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choochoo22
By choochoo22 (Jan 12, 2012)

Defines the category by what it is not. The entire boatload of compact cameras could be called mirrorless.

Unfortunately, a better term has yet to achieve general acceptance and we all seem to know what is meant by "mirrorless" so it will likely be hard to get rid of.

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Revenant
By Revenant (Jan 13, 2012)

They are mirrorless system cameras, a term which excludes all fixed lens compacts, and points to the most important difference compared to other system cameras: the absence of a mirror in front of the sensor.
Try defining the category by what it is. EVIL doesn't cut it. Not all mirrorless have an EVF, and Sony's SLTs have EVF also. Sure, the LCD is an EVF of sorts, but all modern cameras have those. How about CSC (compact system camera)? Compactness isn't a defining feature, as these cameras could be made just as large as a DSLR. No, to me at least, these cameras are mirrorless system cameras.

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choochoo22
By choochoo22 (Jan 13, 2012)

Revenant-- I agree with your line of thought but the water is muddy.

The SLT designs generally are included in "mirrorless" discussions for good reason, even though they do have mirrors, and the new Canon G1-X and Fuji X100 will doubtless be compared to this group because of their sensor size although they aren't "system" cameras.

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Revenant
By Revenant (Jan 13, 2012)

The whole debate is caused by the need of humans to place everything in mutually exclusive categories. You're right choochoo22, the water is indeed muddy.
Maybe we're better off just shooting pictures with our cameras, rather than debating what to call them.

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Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Jan 12, 2012)

Canon's new G1 X's 1.5" is just the first model of any future family variations in Canon's own menagerie to follow in both dcams/mirrorless systems, and I am sure it will absolutely terrorize competitors as this sensor improves over time in new generation applications.
Canon did mention elsewhere that over time, at least for upcoming mirrorless future models, that miniaturization for improved compactness will happen, but not immediately at the start, it will evolve as improvements are made. It makes sense, then, that even a smaller sensor, perhaps a 1.8543x crop (APS-M? (m = mirrorless)) utilize their current EF-S/EF EOS lenses. This is what some folks into mirrorless would like, but if so, I would still want an accompanying hybrid EVF/optical tunnel for 'zero-power' alternative for long tele distance monitoring of subjects (what current dSLRs still offer). One simply cannot do zero-power long term tele monitoring or pre-composition/focus/framing checks with EVFs or any EVS (screens).

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Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Jan 12, 2012)

I am totally happy that Canon filnally upped its prosumer PowerShot G with a proper sensor size (APS-C pixel pitch of its 7D/60D albeit with improvements), it was long over due since models since their Pro1's (near G6 time) 2/3" maximum followed by many smaller sized sensors (while Sony went up instead from their 2/3" DSC-F828 to the APS-C sized DSC-R1; which Sony has not yet updated with a decent sensor yet found on alphas/NEX/SLTs). But since then, it has been a matter of retaining proper ergonomics (G1 X) or go the route of aesthetics (NEX looks 'pretty') at the expense of ergonomics (NEX is least ergonomic of all, and if mounted with any zoom lens, least pocketable).
When having only an EVF on my R1, that was its biggest weakness for any fast-panning tracking of fast moving subjects on the tele end, worse, there was no optical alternative that could easily facilitate this. New EVFs from all MFT/NEX have still not been able to offer fast enough EVFs in spite of considerable updates.

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Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Jan 12, 2012)

only downside, for me is, no 24mm fov (equivalent) as a starting wide end zoom for the G (as other lower models started to get it like SX30IS/SX40HS and S100; long overdue, but missing on the G built-in).

There is also a peculiar new trend that cropped up on their 60D which I find equally unexpected on their new G (G1 X), is that both have been dumbed down slightly from the predecessors, like when 50D split to 60D (downwards) & 7D (upwards) when for the first time offering VASS (vari-angle swivel screen of a PowerShot G) for their EOS dSLRs:

They REMOVED the ability to monitor live image exposure simulation preview when adjusting ISO!!! (which has always been available on any G, as well as any EOS LV dSLR, especially XXD models or higher). Given the higher 7D has it, and not the 60D, one wonders if there is yet a higher PowerShot that will retain it, an integrated Pro1 X?

Oh, here is a CES2012 brochure from Canon:
http://downloads.canon.com/cpr/software/camera/2012CES_0162W812.pdf

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Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Jan 12, 2012)

Thus... if a yet unreleased higher PowerShot model such as a Pro1 X is out there, retaining all classic G strengths, with VASS (vari-angle swivel screen) intact but with 24mm fov equivalent (finally on a Pro/G related series), and the new G1 X sensor, then, I am definitely in for that.
Ideally, if the zoom were a wider, and shorter zoom, such as 24-96 would do me perfect. (happy even with 24-72 or 24-48, seriously).
Unless they offer 'weather sealed integrated variations' like the following:
Pro1 Prime24!!!???
Pro1 Fast Short Wide Zooms: 24-48/72/96
or
Finally, offer mirrorless with the G1 X 1.5" (or better) sensor, as Canon has already mentioned a few days ago. Good EOS-1 type controls in 'mini-body-form' with retention of handgrip for best ergonomics is a bonus (available in higher non-Rebel EOS LV dSLRs, like all XXD+/XD+), as as of late, the EOS-1 controls on the 60D and even 7D are sub-par below past XXD iterations, & well below 5DMkII/higher models: G1X controls look weaker here.

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EricoftheNorth
By EricoftheNorth (Jan 12, 2012)

I must say, the new 520 is crazy small. Holding it and knowing it has that zoom is a little surreal. So is it's microSD slot.

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SteveNunez
By SteveNunez (Jan 12, 2012)

They should have joined the micro-4/3rds consortium and offered up their own version.....in this economy it could have been a great seller!

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Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Jan 12, 2012)

No, MFT simply didn't offer improved pixel pitch, as this is what G users wished for a long time (since Pro1/G6 days), so finally they are offering it. Remember, Canon has already indicated mirrorless systems in the future. And this G1 X makes for a perfect product to fill the gap missing that mft never filled, and that is a compact integrated prosumer that actually had a decent sized sensor to rival lower model APS-C dSLRs without the disadvantages of exposed interchangable lens systems. Canon does do things just because others do it, one expects more than just that.
If one wants to see where mirrorless starts to show up, it will most likely enter down lower in their Rebel range, which now is still quite 'toy like', but remain moderately ergonomic without being too tiny (when the grip was reduced on Canon's G series, it was inferior for overall ergonomics, when they upped it, it improved.)
Always wanted PowerShot G finally to get a modest upsized sensor (> Pro1), it would rival 43d.

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Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Jan 12, 2012)

Now Canon has a new sensor size format, they can vary for lower PowerShot models as well as lower EOS mirrorless models thus filling a gap where alternatives don't fit as well, especially where improved pixel pitch for better low light high ISO performance is concerned. After all what dcam user doesn't wish finally for a decent sensor size? Sony offered an APS-C sensor in their prosumer medium zoom 24-120 way back in 2005, but the sensor tech back then wasn't matured till much later (APS-C alphas, NEX/SLT). The return of a decent sized sensor for integrated digital cameras is welcome instead of always making them smaller, with no gain but more compact 'super-zooms' which I never was interested in to this day. Such super-zooms are best used with a not so compact tripod scenario, or in bright daylight handheld. Small sensors can now be reserved now for such 'super-zooms' only or simple P&S modest zooms for beginners that can accept 'easy auto' modes.

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SteveNunez
By SteveNunez (Jan 12, 2012)

No mirror-less interchangeable lens camera is very disappointing.......why can't they make a mini-dslr-like camera that accepts a new line of Mini-EOS lenses and offer an adapter to use the current EOS lenses as well.....my wishes for Canon are not being met......sad!

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Balloon Belly
By Balloon Belly (Jan 11, 2012)

I own various makes and types of cameras and to me the G1 X is a 'no buy' in my books.. the continuous shooting rate for a camera of this class (and price) is a joke!

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leicaman
By leicaman (Jan 11, 2012)

Sorry Canon. Too little too late. The market for enthusiasts has moved on to APC format interchangable lens bodies with OLED mirrorless TTL viewfinders.
Fuji, SONY and probably even Nikon will own the market. This goes for professional level DSLRs as well.
The DSLR is dead, Long Live the mirrorless TTL.

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tko
By tko (Jan 11, 2012)

Maybe someday mirrorless will equal the performance of an entry level dSLR. Heck, maybe it will beat it. Someday.

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choochoo22
By choochoo22 (Jan 12, 2012)

I think you guys are shortsighted. Perhaps no one has gotten the "mirrorless" formula right yet but even the few valid criticisms will either be fixed in a couple of years by Moore's law, or by experience and feedback. After all, SLRs have been around for what, 60 years? Vs maybe 3yrs for mirrorless.

My prediction; by 2020 you will still be able to buy a new camera with a flipping mirror but not many people will, like film cameras today. By 2030 single-lens-reflexes will sit on collectors shelves next to twin-lens-reflexes, regardless of film or digital sensor.

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jpr2
By jpr2 (Jan 12, 2012)

@choochoo22:
the winning design (SLR) is around much longer, two decades longer to be exact:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exakta

the most versatile design ever = good for shooting from macro (even micro), to astro
with the same body - no RF will ever be as
versatile :( !!

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AG Ozcebe
By AG Ozcebe (Jan 12, 2012)

@ leicaman
I respect your enthusiasm about mirrorless. However, before beating they must be a lot cheaper, offer more variety of lenses, have much better higher ISO performance, be a lot faster compared to now. So, those are the reasons why the DSLR is still alive and, in fact, quite young and healthy. Mirrorless technology needs to grow a bit more ;)

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Armando J. Rodriguez, Jr.
By Armando J. Rodriguez, Jr. (Jan 11, 2012)

It looks as though the 1D X is not part of the exhibit? Why??

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tko
By tko (Jan 11, 2012)

I agree. What happened to it? Looks DOA.

The D4 will be available months before it. Looks like Canon made up a product just to stop people from jumping to Nikon based on a vapor product.

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MirkoK
By MirkoK (Jan 12, 2012)

uhm, they did this for quite some years already with announcing the development of lenses...

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SiriusDoggy
By SiriusDoggy (Jan 12, 2012)

Because this is the CONSUMER Electronics Show, that's why. The 1DX is not considered by Canon to be a consumer camera anymore than Canon considers the Rebel line to be Pro models.

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kadosh32000
By kadosh32000 (Jan 12, 2012)

I don't agree. Nikon has its flagship at CES.

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mantra
By mantra (Jan 13, 2012)

may i know when the 1dx will be available to buy?

why did canon present 1dx so soon ? but the selling of the 1dx will be later then nikon d4?

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Bart Hickman
By Bart Hickman (Jan 11, 2012)

The G1 X looks awesome to me except for the 28mm not being as wide as I'd like. I would think an ideal accessory for it would be a wide-angle converter.

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David Hurt
By David Hurt (Jan 11, 2012)

Too bad it isn't 24-120mm.

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bill hansen
By bill hansen (Jan 11, 2012)

Correction to my comment below - the G1 X has 14mpx, 28-112 mm range. Not quite as impressive, but still interesting.

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vladimir vanek
By vladimir vanek (Jan 11, 2012)

Oh sorry for my reply below. I thought you were listing specs that you'd expect. :)

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bill hansen
By bill hansen (Jan 11, 2012)

G1 X - compact, 24-120mm, 16 mpx, larger sensor - I think I want one !! - maybe. I keep remembering: announcements are not release dates, and release dates are not practical reviews. But still this is a very interesting announcement for those of us who are Canon loyalists. (Aw, go ahead - call us "fan boys". It will make you feel good.)

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vladimir vanek
By vladimir vanek (Jan 11, 2012)

Agree, 24-120 mm would be nice, even more with f2.8-4-0. But what's the point of 16 mpx vs 14? :))) Remember, the less pixels the bigger they are! I'd say STOP the MPIX war and start working on faster lenses, faster AF with dedicated sensors, zooming ring instead of this ancient levers (even a by-wire zooming ring would be better). That's what would make me happy. But one more important thing: it might be that my 5DII would get covered with dust. And that's what Canon keeps in mind, I guess... :)

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SirSeth
By SirSeth (Jan 11, 2012)

I love the retro look of the G1X (if 90s is retro). ;) Will be interesting to see the IQ of this sensor which is so close to 4/3rds size.

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jovial jay
By jovial jay (Jan 11, 2012)

Lets hope canon have sorted out the dodgy zoom mechanism on these 2 new HS model's.
Still waiting for my 220 HS to be returned, after only having it for a month!!!!

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Anderss
By Anderss (Jan 11, 2012)

what an attractive Canon stand!

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keeponkeepingon
By keeponkeepingon (Jan 11, 2012)

Very nice update Lars!

Was there any sight of a D10 replacement? It's going on 3 years I think and we are all waiting for a D20 or D10x or whatever.

Thanks!

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