Raw Converter Showdown: Capture One Pro 7, DxO Optics Pro 8 and Lightroom 4

By Amadou Diallo | Published Jan 23, 2013 |
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Speed

In a raw editing workflow, overall image processing speed contributes to an application feeling either sluggish or responsive. We're going to evaluate speed by taking a look at the time it takes to import raw files and export processed images. We'll also look at how long it takes to generate high quality previews when cycling among images in fullscreen and 1:1 views.

Import times

With database-driven cataloging software you first must import an image before you can start working on it, so one of the more obvious questions is just how long this import process takes. DxO Optics Pro 8 is a file browser (more on the consequences of this later) that doesn't require an image import, so here we're comparing import times only between Capture One Pro 7 and Lightroom 4. In both programs, selecting the Import option brings up a separate import window that can be expanded to fill the screen.

Lightroom 4 arranges image source locations on the left column and destinations along the right column of the import window. Capture One Pro 7 opts for a two-column interface, devoting more available space to its image thumbnails.

For this comparison I imported 200 raw files from a class 10 SD card plugged directly into the USB 2.0 slot of a 2010 27-inch iMac with 8GB of RAM. The raw files came from a combination of cameras with output ranging from 12-36MP. The applications were configured to copy files from the SD card to a folder residing on the internal SATA startup drive. The files were renamed on import but no metadata or additional image adjustments were applied.

In Lightroom 4's Catalog Settings dialog you can set the maximum dimensions of the image previews it will generate during the import process. Capture One Pro 7 lets you configure the preview size for file imports in its Preferences>Images tab. The setting defaults to the nearest match to your primary monitor's resolution.

On my 27-inch iMac screen, Capture One Pro 7, by default renders image previews of 2560 pixels in the long dimension during the import process. I set Lightroom 4 to render image previews of 2880 pixels, the nearest available match.

Capture One Pro 7 was able to import the raw files and render the 2,560-pixel image previews in 8 min., 55 sec. In virtually the exact same time, Lightroom 4 was able to import the images but took an additional 8 min., 30 sec to create its 2,880-pixel image previews.

WINNER: Capture One Pro 7 imports and builds previews nearly twice as fast.

Image viewing

Once images are loaded by the raw converter, an important speed issue concerns the ability to cycle among images quickly when making initial selects.

In Lightroom 4, while generating previews essentially doubled the time of the import process, the upside is that those previews are stored in a cache on the hard drive which is called upon each time you browse through your image collection. There is no time spent waiting for a high quality preview in either the Fit or Fill image views precisely because Lightroom generated 2,880-pixel previews during image import.

Capture One Pro 7 also generated previews during import, yet when cycling through images for the first time there is a brief, but noticeable 1-2 second delay until a high resolution preview is visible. To be fair, once an image has initially been selected, subsequent visits to the image bring up the high resolution view immediately.

In DxO Optics Pro 8, you don't have to go through an import process before working with an image, but you do have wait for a preview to be generated when you select an image. I've found this to take anywhere from three to six seconds depending on the magnification view and the image's pixel count. Unfortunately, it appears these image previews are stored in a temporary cache, because they are available only on a per-session basis. If you quit and relaunch the app, new previews must be built all over again from scratch. In addition, in a 1:1 view, Optics Pro 8 only builds a preview for the visible portion of the image, so as soon as you scroll, you must wait for a new preview to be built.

WINNER: Lightroom 4 provides immediate high resolution views when cycling among images.

Export times

In Capture One Pro 7, you can create and save multiple output options and run them simultaneously, although you're allowed only one filename and destination per operation. DxO Optics Pro 8 also lets you create and run multiple output configurations simultaneously. You can export files to multiple locations, with different filename suffixes, at the same time.

To compare batch processing times I selected a raw file, made edits to white balance, exposure, sharpening and noise reduction and then batch-applied those changes to 19 additional raw files located in the same folder. All 20 files were then exported in a single operation as full resolution JPEGs, with no EXIF data embedded, to a folder on the same hard drive. I repeated this test for each raw converter.

Lightroom 4 processed its files in only 1 min., 41 sec. while Capture One Pro 7 took 3 min., 33 sec. and DxO Optics Pro 8 clocked in at 5 min. flat. Obviously, your times will vary depending on file size and the types of edits applied, but each time I ran this test, Lightroom 4 was significantly faster.

WINNER: Lightroom 4 exports files in just under half the time.

Image quality and editing tools

For all of the additional functionality they provide, raw processing applications are ultimately judged on the quality of the images they produce. Here we'll take a look at how these three apps handle a variety of image editing tasks. I should point out that many of the differences you see in this section will be subtle and may be hard to discern without a calibrated and profiled monitor.

Default color rendering

There's no shortage of posts on the web claiming definitively that, 'Raw converter X produces better images than Brand Y.' The problem I've always had with general statements like these is that most raw converters provide so much editing flexibility that it's pretty rare for one program to produce results that you cannot match reasonably well with appropriate adjustments in another one. There's no denying, however, that if one converter provides a better starting point for your subsequent edits, that can be a real time saver.

Below we compare the color rendering of Lightroom 4, Capture One Pro 7 and DxO Optics Pro 8 at their default settings. During evaluation of a range of images of varied subject matter and lighting, I've found that in many cases the differences between raw converters can be relatively subtle. Make no mistake, these applications won't produce identical results, but the distinctions often come down to saturation and contrast differences.

Capture One Pro 7 DxO Optics Pro 8 Lightroom 4*

*Note that both Capture One Pro and DxO Optics Pro have distortion and chromatic aberration (CA) correction enabled by default for supported lenses. We'll discuss optical correction in a bit, so here I've enabled Lightroom's auto lens corrections in order to concentrate on differences in color and contrast.

As you can see, the default color rendering differences in this outdoor low ISO scene are fairly subtle. Capture One Pro 7 produces the highest contrast while DxO Optics Pro 8 yields a slightly darker image with more saturated colors. Lightroom 4 takes the most conservative approach, offering a relatively flat-looking image. You can easily produce matching results with minor adjustments to any of the converters' default settings. Yet it's been my experience in evaluating dozens of default conversions that, as seen here, Lightroom is less likely than its rivals to produce 'output ready' results out of the box. In particular, Lightroom can often struggle to reproduce saturated reds accurately, typically veering towards a magenta-ish tone.

WINNER: DxO Optics Pro 8 typically provides more pleasing saturation at its default settings.

Default skin tones

One scenario where you will notice more obvious differences in default color output is in portraiture. Capture One Pro has long been touted by its users as producing more realistic skin tones out of the box. I've found, however, that this claim is largely dependent on which camera you're using. Simply put, each of these raw converters produces more pleasing and accurate results on some camera brands and models than others, as you can see below.

Olympus OM-D E-M5 in diffuse window light: (From L to R) Capture One Pro 7, DxO Optics Pro 8, Lightroom 4. Each image processed with default raw conversion settings. Photo courtesy, Richard Butler.
Canon EOS T4i/650D in bright daylight: (From L to R) Capture One Pro 7, DxO Optics Pro 8, Lightroom 4. Each image processed with default raw conversion settings.
Nikon D600 in fluorescent lighting: (From L to R) Capture One Pro 7, DxO Optics Pro 8, Lightroom 4. Each image processed with default raw conversion settings.
Olympus E-PL3 in overcast light: (From L to R) Capture One Pro 7, DxO Optics Pro 8, Lightroom 4. Each image processed with default raw conversion settings.
Sony Alpha SLT-A57 in overcast light: (From L to R) Capture One Pro 7, DxO Optics Pro 8, Lightroom 4. Each image processed with default raw conversion settings.

For my money, Capture One Pro 7 produces more realistic skin tones for the Olympus OM-D E-M5 and Nikon D600 shots seen above. DxO Optics Pro 8 delivers more faithful results in the Olympus EPL-3 and Sony SLT-A57 images. I'd rank Lightroom 4 the most accurate in the Canon EOS T4i portrait. This is an admittedly subjective ranking, and the differences are fairly subtle.

In processing dozens of portraits shot on a variety of cameras, however, I've found that both Capture One Pro 7 and DxO Optics Pro 8 offer consistently more accurate (and pleasing) results than Lightroom 4. Your mileage may vary of course, depending on the camera(s) you shoot with.

TWO-WAY TIE: Capture One Pro 7 and DxO Optics Pro 8 consistently provide natural, pleasing skin tones.

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Simon Elwell
By Simon Elwell (1 week ago)

Another surprised Aperture user here - can't understand why the premier apple converter wouldn't be included in a test such as this.

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n8gray
By n8gray (3 weeks ago)

Wtf? Where is Aperture?

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JasonC66
By JasonC66 (2 weeks ago)

From my MacBook Pro... I use Lightroom 4 on this and a Windows 7 machine. This was a review of 'Cross Platform" Raw converters. Also have to say since Aperture does not have automatic lens correction, I'm not sure it is in this class.

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JasonC66
By JasonC66 (2 weeks ago)

I'd like to try Aperture, but that will cost me $80. What will it do for me that is better than Lightroom 4+?

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dboeren
By dboeren (3 weeks ago)

This would be a lot more useful to me if Aperture was included. Perhaps the reviewer just didn't have access to a Mac? Nonetheless, it still omits one of the most common converters.

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Sordid
By Sordid (3 weeks ago)

Yeah, he probably didn't have access to a Mac.
That's why he wrote:

"For this comparison I imported 200 raw files from a class 10 SD card plugged directly into the USB 2.0 slot of a 2010 27-inch iMac with 8GB of RAM."

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Neil2112
By Neil2112 (4 weeks ago)

Odd review. Only 'cross platform' apps are covered, but why? It's like comparing 1970s classic rock albums but excluding British bands.
Seriously, I have NEVER encountered an issue with images needing to be processed on more than one platform.
My only theory for such a bizarre criteria is that they didn't want Aperture to show the others up in the one area they each suck in: DAM.
My theory doesn't hold up tho' as they left out Bibble, I mean, 'AfterShotPro' which runs on all 3 OSes.
Mr Diallo, explanation please?

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Bjrn SWE
By Bjrn SWE (1 month ago)

I miss Aperture in the test. I guess it is still the one raw converter that most (!?) photographers use. (for a living)

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AidanMJ
By AidanMJ (1 month ago)

Where is Apple Aperture????

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dennishancock
By dennishancock (2 months ago)

What a great effort! This review offers a significant service to photographers trying to sort out the features/distinctions/advantages of existing raw converter software. Thanks for this review DPR.

And a request for a new category of evaluation for the follow-on review: how easy is it to learn this software. I know you allude to the availability of on-line resources. The point though would be how good are they. I'm evaluating DxO Pro 8 right now, moving from their version 5, and their manual and on-line resources leave me at a fork in the road with no place to go. Maybe it's me. But the manual seems to have been written by the programmer who knows the UI and doesn't realize he's explaining things in terms of undefined concepts.

Thank you.

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yukonchris
By yukonchris (2 months ago)

I have been evaluating Lightroom 4 for the past week. I have tried it along with DxO Optics Pro and Capture One pro in the past, but I keep coming back to ACDSee Pro 6 for its truly beautiful usability, efficiency and feature set. While I feel that Lightroom may have a slight edge in terms of image quality (if you look very closely), I feel it looses in many of the categories you've examined here when compared to ACDSee Pro 6. The only thing that really puzzles me is why, ACDSee Pro 6 is never included in these RAW software comparisons. In my opinion, it really should be. Frankly, I think it is a better match for Lightroom and Capture One than DxO.

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irm
By irm (2 months ago)

I have the 3 reviewed packages plus a couple of others. Originally I bought each because they had features the others didn't. LR, came free fort eh first version, currently have v4.x and don't like the fact you have to import everything just to look at it. DxO because it lens correction features. To continue using DxO I need to upgrade to cover my coming soon 6D, that is one of the major failings of DxO.
I don't like LR or DxO fro the fact that you have to import and export everything. This is at odds with the review, but it is my experience. I Use IdImager for that function because it allows me to structure my imports.
C1 I have had since v1 and I find it the easiest to work with. Still coming to terms with some of the new features in it.
I also have the various MAC software because originally not everything worked on the MAC. Haven't tried Apeture much. The MAC is my travel device quad core i7 16gb and two SSDs.

Thank you for the review and the opportunity to comment.

Ian

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GregEigsti
By GregEigsti (2 months ago)

I want to thank you for a great article! I use LR4 on both OSX and Windows and have recently downloaded, but not installed, Capture One Pro. I still may install Capture One Pro but your article showed me that LR4 remains the best software for my needs. I even managed to learn a few things about LR4 (as well as the others). So thank you again for your efforts, which were beneficial to me and once again proves that DPreview is at the top of the heap.

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Neodp
By Neodp (2 months ago)

Using these does not make one a professional, they are completely unnecessary. They are a waste of your money; that you do not need to spend. However, you have the right to do so.

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Neodp
By Neodp (2 months ago)

Using these does not make one a professional, they are completely unnecessary. They are a waste of your money; that you do need need to spend. However, you have the right to do so.

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jPhotonica
By jPhotonica (2 months ago)

I must agree. I've been using a free software called FastStone Image Viewer since 2007. When on the job sorting through my shots, it's the most intuitive and fastest tool out there. No importing/exporting, just browse your folders, highlight your best picks, right click and open just those that you labeled directly into an assigned photo editor in your computer. Other than being really fast, it has the ability to zoom your previews to check for sharpness, even with RAW files. FastStone is my favourite, but, not the only freebie out there.

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Robin Casady
By Robin Casady (3 months ago)

Evaluating defaults seems of little value to me. Users can setup the defaults they want. I don't care which converter renders skin tones best at default settings, or whether red is too magenta with defaults. I want to know if red can be rendered properly when adjustments are made. Can adjustments provide good skin tones without sacrificing something else?

I know this would a lot more work for the reviewer, but just evaluating defaults is fluff journalism.

I saw no mention of camera calibration profiles. I know Lightroom 4.3 has them, but what about the other converters? One can edit profiles in the free Adobe DNG Profile Editor, or use ColorChecker Passport or QPcard 203 to create their own profiles based on their cameras, lenses, and lighting.

The rendering of colors in LR is very dependent on the profile being used. When one reports that red is rendered too magenta in LR one needs to report the profile used and whether this can or cannot be corrected with other profiles.

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Yann Alexandre
By Yann Alexandre (2 months ago)

Hello,
DXO don't open DNG files!
Yann

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Douglas69
By Douglas69 (3 months ago)

After Shot Pro seems to be favoured by many photographers but... I am one of the fools who bought Bibble in the days before it was silently sold to Corel. Any support? Nah. I feel not only betrayed but very let down that there doesn't seem to have been any 'deal' done to provide an upgrade path for existing Bibble users... Just a hand full of bucks to the developers. Who cares about customers. Maybe why its been left out?

DxO? OK just so long as you don't own a Nikon. Only my experience mind you but I think Lightroom comes from an ethical company. Adobe gave me the first copy of Lightroom for free because I was a Raw Shooter Pro user (the origin of Lightroom). Like I said, Just my opinions.

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Mike Dobbs
By Mike Dobbs (2 months ago)

Not true...I was a longtime bibble user and I got a discounted upgrade to AfterShot Pro...something like $25. There are some improvements. I've also seen the full app on sale over "Black Friday" Thanksgiving day week in the USA for under $40.

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d3xmeister
By d3xmeister (3 months ago)

Where is Apple Aperture ? YEs it's mac only but it seems good enough For Chase Jarvis, David Bergman and others, but not dpreview.

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Richard Wonka
By Richard Wonka (3 months ago)

surprised no one is missing darktable here...

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Douglas69
By Douglas69 (3 months ago)

Ever the day it works on Windows 64 bit and I'll trial it. Until then, Linux remains a play thing for me.

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Neodp
By Neodp (2 months ago)

A "Linux" base system (like Linux Mint, with Mate to start), does not exist to be like Windows, or OS-X systems. It has already surpassed them. Do not put it on outdated, and broken hardware. Yes! If you take the time to install it (or have it done for you), and to your custom wishes, it is the least of all, overall evils, and by a very large margin. In other words, the pros, and cons, situation is far better. This however requires a large mount of myth busting; but doing it solves that quickly, if you don't give up to soon. You absolutely must be willing to think. Such as, do not run beta testing versions, and expect 100% stability. Be patent, and always run the stable sets, on your *main* system. An OS (and top system) is more complex than you might guess. There’s a good reason for the comprehensive design, down into the foundational core. You don't have to understand it all, and you do not have to compile anything. You can enjoy fewer limits, by far.

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John McCormack
By John McCormack (3 months ago)

HUH? Where is AfterShot Pro? I can't believe they left it out entirely. Is DPR playing favor to the "big names" in RAW conversion?

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Terence Kearns
By Terence Kearns (3 months ago)

Wow. Very hard to believe they completely left out AfterShotPro (formerly known as Bibble).

I do this stuff professionally and I frequently come out with 2000 frames when shooting a wedding and I had to switch to AfterShotPro to DRASTICALLY speed up my shot-selection workflow. It was too cumbersome working with a tool like Photo Mechanic. As it turns out, by the time you add plugins, you can do a lot more with your images in ASP than you can in LR (LightRoom was my main expertise).

This review is incomplete without the inclusion of AfterShotPro.

http://youtu.be/cawRajAxuC4?t=11m45s

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (3 months ago)

Good at this, bad at that... it seems like a lot of hair-splitting with no clear winner - if there was, there wouldn't be a market for all these programs.
I'll just stick to what came with the cameras. ;-)

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photogeek
By photogeek (3 months ago)

They excluded the clear winner - Apple Aperture. Given decent hardware, Aperture is literally 3x faster than anything else at browsing and rendering large pictures. Why? Because it's GPU accelerated. And it also does all image manipulation in floating point and has soft-proofing.

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zerostudio
By zerostudio (1 month ago)

I have used all of them - aperture by far the best user experience.

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Timur Born
By Timur Born (3 months ago)

DxO offers better demosaicking than LR4 for RAW images coming out of the E-M5. LR4 uses a BayerGreenSplit/Green equilibration offset that smear the very finest detail. And after manually removing that offset there are labyrinth patterns. DxO and Raw Therapee have an edge in that department, cannot tell about Capture One.

On the other hand DxO not only struggles with shadows and highlights recovery compared to LR4, but also suffers from strange behavior of its filtering pipeline, especially where moire is concerned.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3237395

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Laurentiu Todie
By Laurentiu Todie (3 months ago)

I think that the camera manufacturers should suggest a RAW processor for each of their camera models.

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Mark A. Lamb
By Mark A. Lamb (3 months ago)

Most do, their own bundled software.

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Lucas_
By Lucas_ (3 months ago)

Good review, although I'd like to see a comparison with Silkypix Pro5 which, IMHO, has a better NR engine than the three tested and superior graphics interface.

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james laubscher
By james laubscher (3 months ago)

That may be so but the last time I used SP (V3 I think), the demosaicing was very clearly the worst of the better quality softwares. If you want to see what a good standard for demaosaicing is, start with Raw Therapee.

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Keith Cooper
By Keith Cooper (3 months ago)

Very good overview given the inherent difficulties of comparative reviews. Also a subject that some have strong, but not necessarily well researched views on, so never going to please a few ;-)

Avoids going into minutiae that would likely lose a lot of readers - for people complaining about lack of detail, just get the demo versions and try your own comparisons.

As someone who writes reviews, including some of what's here, it's a brief I'd not have liked to see land on my desk ;-)

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john Clinch
By john Clinch (3 months ago)

I've skimmed this and I sort of agree with the comments below. LR for my Nikon camera offers a range of camera profiles that quickly achieve good colour off the bat.

Is LR the only one to offer selective adjustment? I use these alot.

I've never been a fan of saying DPREVIEW is biased but I think we should remember DXO is now a business partner

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Douglas69
By Douglas69 (3 months ago)

Very well put. As an editor of magazines (not potographic) I realise only to well the balancing act of comparative articles. We are all biased at times. Particularly when our existance is risked. Nothing I've trials matches Capture NX2 when it comes to processing Nikon images. The one ting DxO was good at (fixing lens anomolies) is now included with most of its competitors.

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D Gold
By D Gold (3 months ago)

Having used both LR4.3 and DXO, there is no contest - LR4.3 is a feature rich and powerful program that works with virtually all digital camera formats. DXO was buggy to say the least and certainly did not render RAW files all that well.

Unintentionally, much of this article hides the power of LR. Nobody for more than a week uses the out-of-box default profile. The nice thing about LR, is you save a profile per camera and it then applies it to each image for that camera going forward.

At any rate, I do appreciate this lightweight test for what it is - a brief comparison.

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sean lancaster
By sean lancaster (3 months ago)

I've been very pleased with NIK's DFine, but I don't see it was reviewed. Is it just not considered good? I certainly like it over Lightroom, though.

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Yanko Kitanov
By Yanko Kitanov (3 months ago)

A review that might cut it for novice and amateur users, but lacks in-depth analysis and some detailed comparisons.

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PhotonCanvas
By PhotonCanvas (4 months ago)

Agree with the comments suggesting adding Photo Ninja to this comparo. Photo Ninja (out-of-the-box) produces better, more 'photographic' results.

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owenleve
By owenleve (4 months ago)

Hmm... Downloaded/tried capture one. Exports corrupt .DNG files. Awesome.

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David G O Smith
By David G O Smith (4 months ago)

If you want the closest to what the camera actually took, you could try dcraw. In Windows it is used command-line in All programs/Accessories/Command Prompt. There are batch commands available in the Windows Command Prompt environment to process a number of files one after the other.

dcraw offers various algorithms for demosaicing. PTLens will remove distortion and one's photo editor of choice will adjust color, saturation, etc.. dcraw does do some highlight recovery. If I remember correctly, it won't process RAW files that don't use the standard Bayer pattern.

My experience is that the combination of dcraw, PTLens and one's preferred photo editor will produce excellent results.

This method is best used with small numbers of files, not hundreds at one time.

http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/

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james laubscher
By james laubscher (3 months ago)

Prefer Raw Therapee for a good implementation of DCRaw, which I agree does the best demosaicing.

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Serban Alexandru
By Serban Alexandru (4 months ago)

I want a Gallery!

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Chiemsee
By Chiemsee (4 months ago)

By the way, is it unproblematic to access the SAME raw files in a given directory structure with DIFFERENT raw converters?

E.g. LR4 and Photo Ninja... do the share the same xmp-file?? Are the settings completely independent?

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Denis de Gannes
By Denis de Gannes (4 months ago)

Raw converson software providers offer their own individual recipe for processing the RAW sensor data.
So they are not compatible, this is the whole idea of shooting in RAW format , you have the choice of choosing your chef so that you have the taste you prefer.
The competition is what drives the improvements in the processing of raw files. There is no correct/ best "RECIPE". Enjoy.

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Chiemsee
By Chiemsee (4 months ago)

I was asking whether different RAW converters write to the same xmp-file?!? But to completely seperate sections within this sidecar file?

Do they keep their settings COMPLETELY seperate? I'm thinking of properties with the same name in both converters (e.g. "Brightness")?

In other words: Is it possible/save to browse/import a directory structure full of RAW-files with different raw converters COMPLETELY seperately and parallel (not affecting ANYTHING in the other converters when e.g. changing brightness in one converter)?

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borgelite
By borgelite (4 months ago)

I'd also like to know this. Anyone?

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keeponkeepingon
By keeponkeepingon (4 months ago)

This article has still not been updated to reflect that dpreview has an affiliation with DXO.

The response given a couple of pages ago is completely inadequate. Publicizing it on a post that has long since vanished from the homepage and not including that relationship in this review of a DXO product is not exactly "transparent".

Original response:
By Amadou Diallo (4 days ago)
We incorporate DxO Mark test data in our lens reviews and smartphone camera reviews. We publicized the announcement on our homepage and include their logo on the relevant review pages. So we're being as transparent as we reasonably can.

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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (4 months ago)

We, like many publications, use DXOMark test results as part of our review process (phones and cameras). This data is publicly available at www.dxomark.com. This is the full extend of our 'relationship'. We have no affiliation with DXO Labs (the team behind Optics Pro).

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Michael_13
By Michael_13 (4 months ago)

@keepon:
Do you see any bias in this review towards DXO? If yes, where exactly?
I find this comparison very helpful and its conclusion very objective. Cannot understand why you are picking on the reviewer.

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BernhardR
By BernhardR (4 months ago)

I find the current version outdoes Lightroom in some respects and I would consider moving to this software. However, there is one very simple option missing (at least I could not find it): Automatically apply a new name when repeating the procession/export of an image (e.g. *-1, *-2). As long as this is missing DXO, I would not even think about moving to this software.

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dpalugyay
By dpalugyay (4 months ago)

Capture One 7 Pro Windows version DOES NOT let you display thumbnails on one monitor and the photo on the other. Only works on Mac version. They may update this feature for Windows users. Their web site doesn't tell you this differentiation between the two operating systems, and I didn't find out until I purchased a second monitor for this purpose, and consulted their customer care.

Still is outstanding software.

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John Kay
By John Kay (4 months ago)

"Neither does DxO Optics Pro 8 allow you to highlight a slider's corresponding value box to adjust the numbers via your keyboard."

I think you'll find that you can! I get a blue outline on the value box when I click on it, and can then type a value in. BTW, that's on a Mac.

Thanks for the article. What it shows is that the software developers have now narrowed their differences substantially in the image editing results, but still have different approaches to management, etc. Wonderful for the consumer!

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Detail Man
By Detail Man (4 months ago)

That has always worked just fine on all Windows versions of DxO Optics Pro (6.1 - 7.23) when installed on WinXP Pro. It seems unlikely that DxO 8.x would drop that functionality ?

Also - when the user single-left-clicks on (any of the) control-sliders themselves (at the location of where the control's "cursor" is set), the keyboard's Up/Down Arrow keys will advance or decrement that particular control setting-value, incrementing by one gradation-unit, as opposed to the super-irritating individual steps of 5 gradation-units that Lightroom 3.x insists upon stepping-by (in all cases except where it comes to the "Black Level" control-slider).

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hemiola
By hemiola (4 months ago)

Thank you for the very interesting article.
Is there a chance you could expand a bit more the image quality section and perhaps add a subsection on artistic/creative rendering capabilities of each?

For example you mention highlight recovery but no shadow recovery. From my experience with Lightroom 3 and DxO Optics Pro 7, the latter was noticeably better in recovering details from shadows while keeping noise at acceptable levels. Lightroom 4 might have narrowed the gap, but it would still be interesting to see which software wins.

Also, do no forget DxO Film Pack which - when incorporated into DxO Optics Pro - offers a myriad of possibilities such as film renderings, film grains, toning, filters. Not sure if Capture One or Lightroom offer something similar.

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Mouser
By Mouser (4 months ago)

What about Apple Aperture??

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The Silver Fox
By The Silver Fox (4 months ago)

The introduction to the article specifically mentioned that one of the criteria for being included in this review was that the program run on both Windows and Mac. Since Aperture is a Mac-only program, it was excluded. As an Aperture user, I too would have liked to see it go head to head with the others.

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MPA1
By MPA1 (4 months ago)

There are photographers who use Windows? Amazing.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

MPA1,

Try editing AVCHD video with a Mac, even getting the files to simply play in Quicktime on a Mac takes extra information.

And remember that turning an AVCHD file into an MP4 or MP2 takes a good deal of time if the file is more than 30 sec in length.

Besides the obvious video point, yes photographers use Windows, because even people who idly shoot in their free time shoot raw and therefore need good raw extraction software.

This website isn't simply for those who have $20,000 in equipment and a dedicated laptop (probably a Mac) for work in the field, then again see the point about Macs an AVCHD from above.

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RichardBalonglong
By RichardBalonglong (4 months ago)

@ MPA1:
Yes, there a lot actually. It's amazing that you ask about it.

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Tonio Loewald
By Tonio Loewald (3 months ago)

@HowaboutRAW: i think MPA1 was being ironic. That said, to edit AVCHD video natively on a Mac, get Premiere or FCPro X. I don't think either costs $20,000 but I haven't checked lately.

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Bill McKelvie
By Bill McKelvie (2 months ago)

Till they produce a Windows version it is not worth considering.

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Bruce Clarke
By Bruce Clarke (4 months ago)

Thanks, very well written, detailed article. No simplistic scoring, so you have to read it properly to decide what matters most for you. It would have been worth emphasizing that your choice of software is likely to be for the long-term, if you want to retain backward compatibility with edits, searches, keywording etc.

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Peter K Burian
By Peter K Burian (4 months ago)

Doesn't anyone use Photoshop (Adobe Camera Raw) anymore? I do, when I need to process hundreds of RAW photos.

I guess Lightroom is the popular choice now, but I tried it and found it too difficult to make the transition after years of working with Photoshop (now CS6).

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Midnattsol Photography
By Midnattsol Photography (4 months ago)

Camera raw and lightroom 4 are the exact same program

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Bruce Clarke
By Bruce Clarke (4 months ago)

I used to use ACR in CS3, but found it easy to adapt to editing in LR, as they are essentially the same. The database side of LR took more learning, but it pays, as it's just a much more efficient and powerful workflow. The local edit control in LR4 is very powerful now, making my need to go out to Photoshop very rare now.

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dpalugyay
By dpalugyay (4 months ago)

It's basically the same software with a better GUI in Lightroom. Enjoy your DOS, I'll use Windows.

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Peter K Burian
By Peter K Burian (4 months ago)

The next Review should also include Photo Ninja (from the Company that made Noise Ninja). www.picturecode.com

Photo Ninja is a very competent and versatile RAW converter now.

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Geoff666
By Geoff666 (4 months ago)

Does anyone else use Apple Aperture?

I find it works pretty well and I would be interested on how it compares with the others in this review...

A very interesting review nonetheless...

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Howard Prendergast
By Howard Prendergast (4 months ago)

I use Aperture and love it. I shoot tethered with it and do the vast majority of my editing there. When needed, I use my Nik software plug-ins to get more refined adjustments or PS6 to more complex edits. The applications tested here sound pretty good but I can't complain about Aperture, an excellent image management and editing tool. I am a bit surprised it is not also compared here.

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Geoff666
By Geoff666 (4 months ago)

Thanks Howard - thought it was just me!

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UnChatNoir
By UnChatNoir (4 months ago)

I find it a shame that Aperture - which is about to be the 2nd major player in this class of tools - is not in the comparison. It would widen the view to all the major players on the market.

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Stu 5
By Stu 5 (4 months ago)

Howard Aperture was not included as it is not cross platform.

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David247
By David247 (3 months ago)

@Geoff666 I also use aperture. I understand why it wasn't included (not cross platform) but prefer Aperture still. I also have a fully licensed version of Lightroom 3 but after checking out Lightroom 4 demo, which is a nice improvement over 3, still prefer using Aperture and didn't feel upgrading to 4 worth my time or money. A lot depends I guess on which features are important to individuals, but I like my Aperture workflow and the quality of conversion I get from it. - And no it doesn't take anything close to 20,000 worth of equipment or software to use a Mac, and even ACHD video can be done easily enough, it is just handled a little differently.

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ronmyers_us
By ronmyers_us (4 months ago)

In the past, I used Bibble Pro. When Bibble sold out to Correl, the name was changed to After Shot Pro. This software is availble for Windows, Mac and Linex. I like it because of the capability to make adjustments to selected areas independent of the rest of the picture. I have only compared it to the raw file processing addition to Photoshop Elements and find it much superior. In addition to allowing adjustments to selected areas, one can also clone and heal areas of the photo. It does not eliminate the need for editors (like Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro) to complete editing, but it does provide capabilities which I am unable to do after conversion to jpg or tiff format.

Also, the cost is less than any of these three programs. It would be great to see how this less expensive software compares to the higher priced software.

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Peter K Burian
By Peter K Burian (4 months ago)

Wow, Aftershot Pro is only $60? That is surprising.

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borgelite
By borgelite (4 months ago)

I'm trialling it and it really is poor. Just take a look in the Corel ASP forums to see how dissatisfied people are with the lack of progress and updates. It's a shame as it has so much promise but Corel don't seem to have the expertise to carry on the good work of the Bibble staff.

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DavinaG
By DavinaG (3 months ago)

ASP is a great RAW developer. Been Bibble since v4 and love the speed your are able to process hundreds of photos. Yes the software has not really changed much since Bibble 5 but what is there works and works well.

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mmartel
By mmartel (3 months ago)

I've been using AfterShot Pro after trialing LR4 and Capture NX. I've found I personally prefer the AfterShot Pro RAW converter with my Nikon D5100 and D60 images. It's also quite a bit faster to load and process images on my 5-year old Dell laptop.

So I have to disagree with borgelite. I think it's a great piece of software (the others are pretty darn good, too).

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mantra
By mantra (4 months ago)

hi
great article

i would like to see aftershot (the new bible) too

thanks

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jbagg
By jbagg (4 months ago)

The absence of any mention of Apple Camera RAW in the article is quite striking. Apple Camera RAW is used by both Aperture and iPhoto. Despite the fact that Apple Camera RAW works on only one platform, I would not be surprised to find out that there are more Apple Camera RAW users out there an CaptureOne and DxO combined, if not more than Adobe Camera RAW as well. Lightroom has a larger market share than Aperture, but Aperture and its sibling iPhoto together represent a very large market.

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The Silver Fox
By The Silver Fox (4 months ago)

Agreed. I would have liked to see Aperture included because so many of us use it.

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Robgo2
By Robgo2 (4 months ago)

Serious shooters do not use iPhoto, and there are far more people using ACR/LR than Aperture and DxO combined. Nevertheless, I would have liked to have seen Aperture included in this comparison.

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greggerca
By greggerca (4 months ago)

I've used Capture One Pro for many years, and Lr at times.
On the part about "import speed" and then reviewing pictures - basically I see the same issue on all these packages. So I get around that by adding an extra workflow step before C1 / Lr that saves hundreds of hours a year.

On a PC, I use a program called "FastPictureViewer". It has extremely fast RAW CODEC's that can let you flip through and rate RAW pictures as though they were JPEGs (at that speed!). If you shoot both RAW+JPEG, it combines the files, so IPTC operations, ratings etc. work on both. XMP files are compatible with Capture One and Lightroom.

It does have a learning curve... but it is worth it. The CODECs make all of Windows work better.

I don't know what you can do on a Mac. But it even works on a tiny netbook. You can batch rename, cull, and then let Capture One / Lightroom process only "good" files.

It saved me a lot of time.

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Jylppy
By Jylppy (4 months ago)

I have also adopted FastPictureViewer as a photo selection tool in my workflow (in Windows). After selecting photos with FPV, I import photos to Lightroom. FPV provides lightning-fast RAW browsing and instant 1:1 zooming. FPV is stable and fast. Money well spent.

Adobe should buy the technology and integrate it into LR workflow.

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Steve Dworman
By Steve Dworman (4 months ago)

I'd love to see a version 2 of this article with Aperture. But I'd like to bring to everyone's attention another RAW converter than in personal test after personal test really blows these others out of the water for immediate results without a lot of tweaking. The software is called Photo Ninja. Been developed over a long time and incorporates the noise processor Noise Ninja. It functions as a browser, not a cataloger. Using it, I've blown up an image from the Fuji X100 to a 6 foot long print in which you can see the individual hairs on a persons head in the distance. It's recovery feature for blown highlights is literally magic. I'm not affiliated with the company in any way, but suggest you check them out and see for yourself.

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Robgo2
By Robgo2 (4 months ago)

What Steve says about Photo Ninja is true. It is in a league of its own. Had it been included in this comparison, it would have been the clear winner by a wide margin. I know this, because I have personally run numerous head to head comparisons of PN with Capture One and ACR. I did not bother with DxO, because result seemed a foregone conclusion.

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Pete
By Pete (4 months ago)

Thank you for a very helpful comparison. Nice job. I do wish you had included Apple Aperture in this mix. While I realize it is Mac only, which may have been a reason for omission, I have found it to be a very capable tool. It has very strong and flexible project-management features as well as plenty of image-correction options.

When I chose it over Lightroom a few years ago, my main reason was for its flexible project management and the ability of the program to go from raw to final product (wedding books, in my case) with ease. At that time, Lightroom did not offer book creation, which was a deal-breaker for me.

While I feel Aperture's raw converter does a good job, it would have been nice, however, to see how good it does in direct comparison to these three tools.

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Robgo2
By Robgo2 (4 months ago)

Wrong post.

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attila_feher
By attila_feher (4 months ago)

I'm a DxO fan ;)

I agree is not perfect, and often is annoyingly slow (especially if you want to remove dust or other unwanted spots) but it has very good ability to squeeze out the smallest detail from the raw file.

But I tried at some point Capture One Pro, too, and the high-ISO noise reduction was quite disappointing...

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Peter K Burian
By Peter K Burian (4 months ago)

Yeah, DXO is slow. That is the most important criticism of it for sure. (And I have a very! fast PC, with 12 GB or RAM)

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Adrian Van
By Adrian Van (4 months ago)

Sorry I find DXO very fast on my imac 27 inch i7 with ATI Radeon and 8GB only. Strong Video card also matters and Apples flow through 64 bit pipeline architecture to push more data through faster.

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attila_feher
By attila_feher (3 months ago)

Adrian, you have a very strong machine by any standards. I have a mobile i5 (dual core processor, not quad core) without a dedicated graphics card. And yes, in the newer versions the video card takes over a part of processing so it is like an extra processor.

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samsamsamsam
By samsamsamsam (4 months ago)

I like Rawdeveloper from iridientdigital.com, because I need to ajust the raw curve, before it is converted to gamma 1.8 or 2.2.. And it is also lot faster then PS.
Watch at Suuperguut.com, there are Panorama Photos converted in Rawdeveloper, and there you can see, with oneshot you can have the dynamic range from HDR.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

Isn't that raw extractor Mac only?

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