Nikon D4 overview

Nikon D4 Specifications

Price
MSRPUS: $5999.95, UK: £4799.99
Body type
Body typeLarge SLR"
Body materialMagnesium alloy
Sensor
Max resolution4928 x 3280
Other resolutions4096 x 2720, 4096 x 3280, 3696 x 2456, 3200 x 2128, 3072 x 2456, 3072 x 2040, 2464 x 1640, 2400 x 1592, 2048 x 1360, 2048 x 1640, 1600 x 1064
Image ratio w:h5:4, 3:2
Effective pixels16 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors17 megapixels
Sensor sizeFull frame (36 x 23.9 mm)
Sensor typeCMOS
ProcessorExpeed 3
Color spacesRGB, Adobe RGB
Color filter arrayRGB Color Filter Array
Image
ISO100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, 6400, 12800 (204800 with boost)
White balance presets12
Custom white balanceYes (4)
Image stabilizationNo
Uncompressed formatRAW
File format
  • NEF (12-bit or 14-bit, compressed or lossless compressed RAW)
  • NEF + JPEG
  • TIFF
  • JPEG
Optics & Focus
Autofocus
  • Phase Detect
  • Multi-area
  • Selective single-point
  • Tracking
  • Single
  • Continuous
  • Live View
Digital zoomNo
Manual focusYes
Number of focus points51
Lens mountNikon F
Focal length multiplier1×
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCDFixed
Screen size3.2
Screen dots921,000
Touch screenNo
Screen typeTFT color LCD with brightness control
Live viewYes
Viewfinder typeOptical (pentaprism)
Viewfinder coverage100%
Viewfinder magnification0.7×
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed30 sec
Maximum shutter speed1/8000 sec
Exposure modes
  • Programmed auto with flexible program (P)
  • Shutter-priority (S)
  • Aperture-priority (A)
  • Manual (M)
Built-in flashNo
External flashYes (Hot-shoe, Wireless plus sync connector)
Flash modesAuto, On, Off, Front curtain, Rear curtain, Red-Eye, Slow Sync, High Speed Sync
Flash X sync speed1/250 sec
Drive modes
  • Single frame
  • Continuous low speed
  • Continuous high speed
  • Quiet shutter-release
  • Self-timer
  • Mirror up
Continuous drive11 fps
Self-timerYes (2-20 seconds, 1-9 exposures at intervals of 0.5, 1, 2, or 3 seconds)
Metering modes
  • Multi
  • Center-weighted
  • Spot
Exposure compensation±5 (at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV, 1 EV steps)
AE Bracketing (2, 3, 5, 7 frames at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV, 2/3 EV steps)
WB BracketingYes (2-9 frames in steps of 1, 2, or 3)
Videography features
Resolutions1920 x 1080 (30, 25, 24 fps), 1280 x 720 (60, 50, 30, 25 fps), 640 x 424 (30, 25 fps)
FormatMPEG-4, H.264
MicrophoneMono
SpeakerMono
Storage
Storage typesCompactFlash, XQD
Storage includedNone
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMIYes (Type C )
WirelessOptional
Wireless notesvia WT-5, WT-5A
Remote controlYes (via ten-pin remote terminal)
Physical
Environmentally sealedYes (Water and dust resistant)
BatteryBattery Pack
Battery descriptionLithium-Ion EN-EL18 rechargeable battery & charger
Weight (inc. batteries)1340 g (2.95 lb / 47.27 oz)
Dimensions160 x 157 x 91 mm (6.3 x 6.18 x 3.58)
Other features
Orientation sensorYes
Timelapse recordingYes (Playback speed 24x to 36000x )
GPSOptional
GPS notesGP-1 or GPS device compliant with NMEA0183 version 2.01 or 3.01 (requires optional MC-35 GPS adapter cord and cable with D-sub 9-pin connector)

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Comments

Total comments: 859
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Cineski2
By Cineski2 (Jan 6, 2012)

Am I missing something or is there no 60 fps video? That's going to cut this camera out of any videographer's book instantly.

Edit: Never mind. It does do 60P. If the D800 is close to this I might just end up switching from Canon.

Comment edited 14 minutes after posting
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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Jan 6, 2012)

The 60p video is limited to 1280x720 resolution.

1920x1080 60p video is still "ahead of the curve," in terms of shareability. What share of the public has AVCHD2 capable Blu-ray players or 28mbps web connections?

For the price, one might have expected the D4 to introduce 4k video to the DSLR world, at least for short takes. That also exceeds existing display norms, but would be great for cropping, which remains a privilege of still photography or REDs.

Good to see Nikon introduce video cropping for telephoto while retaining Full HD. Might buyers of the T4i or D5200 get the same treat for a fraction of the cost?

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Andrew Booth
By Andrew Booth (Jan 6, 2012)

60fps has widespread use for slo-mo shooting... so filmmakers will be more upset about it's lack for that reason, not because they want to make 60fps movies.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 7, 2012)

"What share of the public has AVCHD2 capable Blu-ray players or 28mbps web connections?"

No clue, but then again, that has got probably nothing to do with the recording specs of the Nikon D4 DSLR.

60fps shooting is not strictly for slow-motion effects any more, in fact, this year will mark the release of some cinematic features that were shot at 48fps and will play out in cinemas also at 48fps. High frame rate cinema, the other emerging standard is the 60fps shooting and 60fps projection acquisition/projection frame rate.

4K video would have clinched the deal for most videographers in getting the D4. But as things stand now, that is less certain. Maxing out at 1080p30 is a bad sign.

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djedi
By djedi (Jan 6, 2012)

I cannot seem to ascertain if Nikon is keeping with its "on the fly" permanent custom menu changes, or if the custom settings can finally be programmed so they return as originally programmed (by the user) after the camera is restarted.
This Canon convention seems to make much more sense to me than having on-the-fly changes to custom settings become the default from that point on.
Anyone who actually used this camera know? Thanks

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ole thofte
By ole thofte (Jan 6, 2012)

I'd buy one, but first time out I'd get beaten in the head and someone take off with the camera... is the camera prepared for that? Boobytrapped maybe?

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fastprime
By fastprime (Jan 6, 2012)

nice, but does it fit in my pocket? ;-)

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Ashley Pomeroy
By Ashley Pomeroy (Jan 6, 2012)

"Is that a Nikon D4 in your pocket, or are you VERY pleased to see me?" (zipper noise) "It's twoo! It's twoo!"

7 upvotes
rramjit
By rramjit (Jan 6, 2012)

but your brain most likely would..

3 upvotes
nathanleebush
By nathanleebush (Jan 6, 2012)

Yeah why isn't this mirrorless durrr...

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limlee55
By limlee55 (Jan 6, 2012)

ya.. agreed go for mirrorless !

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Behbehani
By Behbehani (Jan 6, 2012)

Monster of Nikon !

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Hauer
By Hauer (Jan 6, 2012)

Bring on the D4s & D4x!!!

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AkinaC
By AkinaC (Jan 6, 2012)

No offense, but Nikon probably follow Canon's concept that puts two flagship models into one...

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Jogger
By Jogger (Jan 6, 2012)

actually, with they will most likely have a d4x with teh 36mp sensor thats coming to the d800 as well

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FuzzTheKingOfTrees
By FuzzTheKingOfTrees (Jan 6, 2012)

Looks like a couple of things missed here.

1. Decent microphone input, some kind of breakout with XLR connectors would probably have been welcomed by some.

2. USB3, with USB2 you're struggling to get over 20MB/s, of course the Ethernet port somewhat mitigates that but it's complicated to use and only really suited to studio setups. USB is good for photographers that like to go and shoot for a client and then just dump all the photos straight onto the clients computer. No messing with a card reader.

Also I think it should have been possible to design the new camera to take both the old battery and the new one.

All in all it'll be interesting to see how much of this gets filtered down to the D300 replacement when it eventually arrives.

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Jan 6, 2012)

There seems to be some unwritten law that high-end cameras must have rotten on-board mics, and that the hot shoe must be used for a mic or flash, but not both. If advanced cameras allow for multiple lenses, why not have jacks for an assortment of mini-shotguns, etc? Too logical? Or is the target buyer focused and entirely on the visuals and considers audio to be irrelevant or someone else's gig?

The absence of USB-3 ports on virtually any camera mystifies me too, but the battery obsolescence factor is an old ploy of the business game.

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pocketfulladoubles
By pocketfulladoubles (Jan 6, 2012)

Good idea, but having recorded sound professionally for years I would immediately argue that few want their sound directly coupled to the video. I'd go with a dedicated solid state multi-track recorder any day. The sound editors back in the studio seem to want the same, but who knows how things will change in the future.

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dosdan
By dosdan (Jan 6, 2012)

Two things:

1. Why no inbuilt GPS. Sony can do it on their much cheaper models?

2. Recording time code would be better. Who wants XLR connectors on a DSLR? Just how much weight & bulk do people want in a DSLR? The only experienced video users (rather than newcomers) who want to record sound as heard from the camera are ENG users, and DSLRs are certainly not suitable for that role.

Better to record sound remotely and either sync it with T/C (I wonder if the ext. GPS clock syncing will be good enough for T/C generation?) or send it to the camera by UHF link.

Dan.

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Jogger
By Jogger (Jan 6, 2012)

most pro video folks are going to use external mics and recorders anyways, the onboard is just to sync up

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 7, 2012)

All professional video camcorder use INTERNAL SOUND RECORDING, not external. But if your camera cannot allow for that in a good enough quality, then you have no choice but to use external recorders and sync up sound to picture later. Usually adds another person to the shooting crew, and not the fastest idea for time-sensitive video clips, such as what the news shooters face.

I am not sure about the SMPTE TC generation capability of the D4, however. Anybody seen any mention of that? The Canon EOS 1D X supposedly has that. Phew, the plot thickens, definitely.

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williams359
By williams359 (Jan 6, 2012)

Another great camera on paper. Like the canon 1DX its an improvement but i think a lot of pros will not upgrade from the D3s, like canon shooters won't upgrade from the 1D MKIV Both canon and nikons new models will be better than what they replace but unless you are shooting on the edge the upgrade is not worth it. For me (1D MKIV shooter) iso 3200 and ten PSP are more than enough for 99.99% of my shooting.

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Jan 6, 2012)

well everyone who makes money with a camera will propably upgrade. at least here in my country where you can get that money back from your tax.

it´s not for amateurs...

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larrytusaz
By larrytusaz (Jan 6, 2012)

It looks nice overall, and I love Nikon d-SLRs. However, why do SLR makers still limit you on the number of CROSS-SENSITIVE autofocus sensors? On a camera of this level, every single AF sensor should be cross-sensitive. Heck, even the D3100 should have ALL of them cross-sensitive, just fewer of them (even if it means having, say, only 7 or 9 of them vs 11). The layout as is means you are STILL often-times compelled to "focus & recompose" because only the central ones are cross-sensitive.

And a "multi-media" SLR? I know it's been 3 1/2 years since the D90 ushered all of this in, and arguably I'm "beating the horse to death" or whatever, but SLRs should focus on photos, period. I know pros are often-times now asked to include video clips with their images, but that's a silly expectation. I don't expect my plumber to know how to fix my car, or the Mexican eatery down the road to learn how to cook a good hamburger.

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rramjit
By rramjit (Jan 6, 2012)

I agree with you...hardly any pro will be shooting video with a DSLR...instead they will purchase a proper video camera..to do their video shooting, which will be done most likely, by someone else in their crew...

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Le Kilt
By Le Kilt (Jan 6, 2012)

Photographers may not be too interested in video, but some (or many?) pro film-makers are using DSLRs when high quality full-HD is what they need (famous example is the Dr House series filmed with Canon 5D Mk2). For full HD TV (1080p), some DSLRs give fabulous quality (as good or better than pro video cameras), and a new market has emerged.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 7, 2012)

"hardly any pro will be shooting video with a DSLR...instead they will purchase a proper video camera..to do their video shooting, which will be done most likely, by someone else in their crew."

Here is the problem with that. A "good" video camcorder will set you back up to US$60,000, and the maximum sensor size that a heavy, pro-class, shoulder-mounted camcorder has is 2/3-inch.

I don't know about you, but I would rather shoot video to a 36x24mm sized sensor with a $6,000 camera, than to an 8.8x6.6mm sensor (i.e. 2/3-inch) using a $20,000 to $60,000 price dedicated video camera.

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nathanleebush
By nathanleebush (Jan 7, 2012)

Not true, I know a lot of pros who are branching out into video with their DSLRs. For every photographer like you, there is another that does want video. The last thing I shot with a D3s I used the (really bad) video. I wished I had the higher quality that the D4 delivers. If you can have two for one, of course they are going to add it. Don't just extrapolate from yourself. My work is about 50/50 video/stills these days.

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Tim F 101
By Tim F 101 (Jan 6, 2012)

Nikon will keep trailing competitors like Sigma until they offer a camera with wood burl technology.

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louie c
By louie c (Jan 6, 2012)

So true, it's like they don't listen to the demands of the consumer! "We want Wood!"

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TheEye
By TheEye (Jan 6, 2012)

Is that D4 as big and heavy as my 1979 F2 AS with MD-2? :-P

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CFynn
By CFynn (Jan 7, 2012)

At least on the F2 you can remove all that weight.

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_P
By _P (Jan 6, 2012)

Sounds like Intel Thunderbolt™ Technology to me

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rondhamalam
By rondhamalam (Jan 6, 2012)

USB is not really Universal.
We need SUMB (Super universal multi-bus), including ethernet, audio and video, and hdmi, all in one.

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_P
By _P (Jan 6, 2012)

Sounds like Intel Thunderbolt™ Technology to me

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LukeDuciel
By LukeDuciel (Jan 6, 2012)

Thumbs up to Nikon! It's a rather welcomed evolution for me. Although, I cannot justify the upgrade from D3s to D4 for work. But Nikon has really fixed all the things that nags me on D3s.

Bravo.

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marianco
By marianco (Jan 6, 2012)

The Nikon D4 seems like a clone of the Canon 1Dx - but with slightly lower specs such as lower resolution, etc.

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Robert Daniels
By Robert Daniels (Jan 6, 2012)

and best of all....LOWER Price. :D

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rramjit
By rramjit (Jan 6, 2012)

I bet the color depth and low noise at high iso will make it a formidable opponent.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 7, 2012)

Canon will need to lower the 1D X price drastically to compete with Nikon now.

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tmurph
By tmurph (Jan 6, 2012)

Oh dear oh dear. I can never understand people who look at cameras as more than just a tool to use and create great pictures. Most cameras help you do this but some help the process more than other models do.
Yes,yes I hear you say we know this but just look at the moaning brigade
on here. " it only shoots at 10 frames per sec" I know, terrible, shoot the boffins at Nikon for getting it wrong. " they forgot to put GPS on it" again. how absolutely shocking is that, well maybe some people need GPS at the end of the day who cares.
For all its wizz bangs this is a box, put a good lens on it and see what YOU are capable of.
This is a pro tool out of the reach of most of us but even if you could afford one then make sure it makes money for you if not then you're either too rich or you think spending that kind of money will make you a better photographer.

For the " hang it from my shoulder just to look good brigade" then good luck when they ask you to show them some of your pics.

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itsbiggmac
By itsbiggmac (Jan 6, 2012)

Thanks for putting it all into perspective for those people that believe the camera makes the photographer.
The last time I checked, WE users are the ones that are paid and remembered for the shots we take, not the camera manufacturers.
GREAT POST!!!

7 upvotes
Michael Wilkinson
By Michael Wilkinson (Jan 6, 2012)

dust elimination system still missing so I will stick with my D3

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oselimg
By oselimg (Jan 6, 2012)

Excellent post "Tmurph". I guess the camera industry needs the "gear worshippers" ( of any brand) to keep the manufacturing belt rolling to a certain extend. According to these people photography starts every time a new model hits the shelves and before then photography sucked a big way. None of those film era guys with their manual everything cameras existed or what they achieved was 99% a "fluke". Well probably when an "artist" have nothing to say, no stories to tell through their chosen art they will either blame their tools or blame the public for not understanding them.

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Michael Jardine
By Michael Jardine (Jan 6, 2012)

agree on all accounts!

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Jan 6, 2012)

In defense of the critics and quibblers, they are referring to a very premium camera with premium price to boot, so why not fuss over it? Meanwhile, you are right that a top camera does not assure top pictures, and one can do pretty well with a medley of old gear and <$1k.

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rramjit
By rramjit (Jan 6, 2012)

but if you are already a good photography...i.e. pro...you will do far better with a D700 than a D40.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Jan 6, 2012)

With all due respect, if the camera industry (which doesn't have all that much to do with photography, sorry) had to depend on actual professionals, who make enough from taking photos to buy stuff like this, there wouldn't be cameras like this. Next time you get a bill for a hospital stay or for legal fees, look on the bright side; you're subsiziing the demand for high-end cameras and lenses (and Aston-Martins, Learjets and so on).

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Le Kilt
By Le Kilt (Jan 6, 2012)

Lovely clichés...
P.S. where can I join the "hang it from my shoulder just to look good brigade", who are they, how did they form, I thought they were just a figment of the imagination of those who can't afford one, but must be wrong...

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Sweeper29
By Sweeper29 (Jan 7, 2012)

Great post tmurph. Glad to see the technology advancing more at a snails pace - I love my D3s and will hang on and use it for a bit longer while investing in better glass. Like with Apple, I founf its best to buy smart, then hang onto it and use it fir what its worth and only then replace it when obsolensence requires it. I still get wonderful images out of my D70, which was 'stake in the ground' cutting edge just 8 short years ago, and hope to do the same with the D3s for years to come. My next will probably be a D5s at the rate I'm going and the switch will come more because of battery and memory card issues LOL... Let the Nikon fanboi's drool and the haters hate over the new stuff as its fun to watch..

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mugupo
By mugupo (Jan 7, 2012)

Why is the point get this camera instead of oncoming sony full frame which would had all this stuff plus more like gps etc..?

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scubasteve03
By scubasteve03 (Jan 10, 2012)

T!!!
LIKE7
Michael Wilkinson
By Michael Wilkinson (Jan 6, 2012 at 15:52:31 GMT)

dust elimination system still missing so I will stick with my D3

Wrong
Dust reduction. Of course, as an interchangeable-lens camera, the lens mount itself is a potential entry-point for dust, and the D4 includes a dust removal function achieved using vibration of the optical low-pass filter. The Nikon D4 can also capture a reference image which determines the location of dust on the image sensor, and can be used to retouch photos to remove this dust, using Nikon's optional Capture NX 2 software.

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DSPographer
By DSPographer (Jan 6, 2012)

Question: What does the connector on the XQD card look like? Does it still use pins in the camera that can be bent like compactflash? I find it strange that *none* of the pictures I could find of the XQD card show the connector end.

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Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (Jan 6, 2012)

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/imageBank/d/DYNAX%2091.jpg

This is how professional dSLR layout should look like.

D4 layout? No thanks. Even Sony realized, that more external controls is good thing (NEX-7 layout). Yes they made few mistakes (like that those dials need LOCK and they dont have it :D), but idea itself was good.

If they create A99 with layout similar to A900 (or same) then good luck with D4 Nikon. Btw. that 16 mpix will be used in one of Sony future FF.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jan 6, 2012)

By your logic the Sony A900 would vastly outsell the Nikon 3X, because they use the same sensor.

You've missed a good bit here.

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Michael Wilkinson
By Michael Wilkinson (Jan 6, 2012)

Best slr layout,ever, was the Rollie 2002 series.Easy to hold,did not bend my nose in order just to look through the viewfinder.Even my Minolta Dimage 7 was laid out better than my D3

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Michael Jardine
By Michael Jardine (Jan 6, 2012)

why to people keep comparing a pro dslr with mirror-less cameras? apples and oranges.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 7, 2012)

You are talking about cheap Sonys versus pricey Nikons. Sony has got more camera models out now than most people go though with underwear in a lifetime.

Also, who cares what an old-school camera had for a layout in 1962 or whenever? This here is the year 2012, folks.

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leslieianramos
By leslieianramos (Jan 7, 2012)

funny how people talk here like they've already owned the D4/1Dx or even tried the camera. Honestly? Let's all admit that it all boils down to your photography skills.

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CFynn
By CFynn (Jan 7, 2012)

@HowaboutRAW

If the A900 had an F-Mount it probably would have outsold the D3x

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MisterCarGuy
By MisterCarGuy (Jan 6, 2012)

The D4 seems like it will be another solid, reliable workhorse for the professional sports and news photographer. I'm not concerned with the MP count - I recently heard Nikon shooter Bill "Moose" Peterson speak and he poo poo'ed the MP wars. (Sharp guy, great photographer.)

For me, I'm hoping this new camera will bring all of the lightly-used D3 bodies in doctors' and dentists' camera bags to the used market! I would like to score a like-new D3 for less than the price of a D700.

The real fun will be next year's Super Bowl. How many pro shooters snapping with the new Canon vs the new Nikon !

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daddyo
By daddyo (Jan 6, 2012)

Question:

The specs indicate a Minimum shutter speed of 30 Seconds -- no mention of a "Bulb" setting. Surely, 30 Seconds is not the longest you can keep the shutter open?

I'm sure I've missed something.

God Bless,
Greg
www.imagismphotos.com
www.mccroskery.zenfolio.com
www.pbase.com/daddyo

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spbStan
By spbStan (Jan 6, 2012)

Bulb is one of the options

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svx94
By svx94 (Jan 6, 2012)

Congratulations for another great camera! Looking forward to the next D700.

2 upvotes
itchhh
By itchhh (Jan 6, 2012)

How did Ansel Adams survive w/o the newest wiz bang camera?? The D4 is a nice camera no doubt but $6 is crazy for 98% of us.

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Greg Pavlov
By Greg Pavlov (Jan 6, 2012)

I don't know how Ansel Adams would have reacted to computer-based cameras and frequent upgrades (and either does anyone else...) but what I do know is that he did not shy away from buying equipment.

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webfrasse
By webfrasse (Jan 6, 2012)

The camera isn't target for 98% of you;-)

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KerryBE
By KerryBE (Jan 6, 2012)

In his book - The Making of 40 Photographs - Adams stated that he hoped he would see the day that pictures were captured electronically.

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amateurphotographer
By amateurphotographer (Jan 6, 2012)

FYI regarding XQD card cost

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/sony-unveils-new-high-speed-xqd-memory-cards-136787368.html

The new Sony products are planned to be available in February and are estimated to sell at the following retail prices:
•QD-H16 card, 16 GB, $129.99
•QD-H32 card, 32 GB, $229.99
•Card Reader, MRW-E80, $44.99
•ExpressCard Adapter, QDA-EX1, $44.99

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Canon EOS 60D
By Canon EOS 60D (Jan 6, 2012)

Not very surprising and innovative enough. If Steve Jobs was still alive, he would have mocked Nikon D4 and Canon 1DX engineers. He would have made Apple to innovate their own DSLR with built in mp3 player, touch LED screen, 3.5G capable (sounds like iPhone). Bwahahahaha

I think Nikon and Canon did not introduced much changes and competition in their flagship DSLRs so as not to loose their market in the professional photographers arena. Professional photographers don't worry themselves much with the camera specs, but rather with their crafts. It's the prosumer photographers that worry too much about the camera specs, the pixel peepers and mongers. Nyahahaha

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Joesiv
By Joesiv (Jan 6, 2012)

um, when has apple ever put in anything extra into their products than what they speficically think you should want.

for example, why didn't the ipods ever have an FM radio? Why isn't the iphon 4s 4G capable? Why doesn't the ipad have a built in USB port... or better yet an SD port for expansion?

I thought it was pretty well known that apple puts just what they want into their devices, nothing more. Often times it's not what the consumer wants, but because it's an apple product, consumers will bend their desires and justify the purchase.

This is coming from a long time ipod and iphone owner.

So no, apple wouldn't put in 3.5G or an mp3 player into their camera. Instead, they will put in a moderately decent compact camera into their fragile iphone and call it a day.

Also if it was apple, the lens' mount would be changing every 5 years with no respect for backwards compatibility.

No, I'm happy with what Nikon and Canon are doing with these top end cameras.

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Le Kilt
By Le Kilt (Jan 6, 2012)

LOL, Steve Jobs hasn't been long dead, and he didn't mock the 1D-X, not his business, what a load of twaddle, Bwahahahaha!
Apple, camera ? Nyahahaha!

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 7, 2012)

S. Jobs is dead now, but I wouldn't have bought anything unde-spec'd and overpriced from Apple even while he was still alive.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 7, 2012)

@ Canon EOS 60D: Excuse me, but if you do not care about camera specs at all but instead with the art of photography, then why exactly do you identify yourself in this forum as "Canon EOS 60D?"

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techmine
By techmine (Jan 6, 2012)

Never understood the stealth nature of these camera announcements. There is nothing innovative here but just improvements over earlier models. It might still be a good camera but who would steal the exterior design of Nikon :-)

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 7, 2012)

I dunno -- Canon?

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techmine
By techmine (Jan 10, 2012)

Don't they already look like brothers? :-)

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Mr Fartleberry
By Mr Fartleberry (Jan 6, 2012)

Another incremental upgrade lacking integrated Coolpix style GPS. Wait - 16MP - it is a Coolpix! Seriously, who shoots at ISO 2 hundred thousand other than peeping Toms?

Hope you like it since you're stuck with it another 5 years.

3 upvotes
Flicky
By Flicky (Jan 6, 2012)

You're actually comparing the MP of a point-and-shoot with a DLSR? Really? As for GPS, I've gotten by without it this far I think I'll survive.

5 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jan 6, 2012)

Mr Fartleberry:

Try shooting in club with that PandS at ISO 6400 and see if you get usable images.

Go ahead and try a Canon 5D Mark II too.

1 upvote
louie c
By louie c (Jan 6, 2012)

There is so much confusion over this camera, it's a flag ship camera for full time pros ONLY! No one should be thinking about a camera like this unless they are stinky rich or shoot full time. GPS? seriously?

0 upvotes
AnHund
By AnHund (Jan 6, 2012)

@Canon EOS 60D
Yes, don't we all remember the breathtaking Apple QuickTake :-)

0 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Jan 6, 2012)

Agreed that the 5D II is noisy even at ISO 500 but he has a point that there isn't any use, as far as I know for ISO 200,000 or 200,000,000 for that matter.

0 upvotes
Le Kilt
By Le Kilt (Jan 6, 2012)

If you don't have the imagination or vision to know why iso 204800 may be useful, you certainly won't need it.

1 upvote
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 7, 2012)

Mr Dingelbell.

0 upvotes
Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (Jan 6, 2012)

Will it be released in white colour too? Then Nikon logo should go in black. And perhaps reverse the strap colours too, so it's more yellow.

0 upvotes
Mtsuoka
By Mtsuoka (Jan 6, 2012)

you can paint it yourself

1 upvote
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 7, 2012)

Dumb Dumm.

0 upvotes
tbower
By tbower (Jan 6, 2012)

Why a less powerful battery than the D3s?

0 upvotes
spbStan
By spbStan (Jan 6, 2012)

Because as it is, it can get 2,600 images on a charge.

1 upvote
tbower
By tbower (Jan 6, 2012)

D3s: Approx. 4,200 Images per Battery Charge

The less powerful battery doesn't make much sense in lieu of larger LCD screen, better video, lighted buttons, etc. which is probably why the D4 gets 2,600 shots per charge vs. 4,200 on the D3s.

All these power-hungry additions and a less powerful battery? Fail.

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Mtsuoka
By Mtsuoka (Jan 6, 2012)

it's due to some new Japanese battery law

0 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 7, 2012)

Ain't life a bitch, though?

0 upvotes
John 3
By John 3 (Jan 6, 2012)

I would have preferred a 'What You See Is What You Get' electronic viewfinder. Otherwise, a nice upgrade.

1 upvote
BR41NFCK
By BR41NFCK (Jan 6, 2012)

I can't wait to see some high ISO samples !

0 upvotes
Hannu108
By Hannu108 (Jan 6, 2012)

Here are few fuul size ISO 6400 samples. They look great:

http://www.nikon.com.au/en_AU/product_details.page?DCRPath=templatedata/en_AU/saleable_product_information/data/Digital%20SLR%20Cameras/D4.xml&currentProductTab=4&CategoryID=gp11zkm9#

cheers!

0 upvotes
pboehi
By pboehi (Jan 6, 2012)

Better focusing in low light and smarter auto iso are already worth the price of admission! Those are the things that count most for me.

0 upvotes
amateurphotographer
By amateurphotographer (Jan 6, 2012)

I work as a photographer doing dance, theatre and nightclub shoots.
1) Being able to produce clean shots in low light theatres and can push up the shutter speed will be a massive advantage.
2) The illumination on the buttons was something i wanted working in low light.
3) Not sure about the focus selector (i think) moved to the top. May not be as convenient as on the D3s location.
4) hope XQD CARD READER become avaiable soon.
5) 10 fps is enough to track dancers and freeze the position i want. Getting sharp pics will be awesome.
6) Will slight change in angle of shutter release get rid of my callous on the inside of my thumb!
7) read somewhere there is gel under the screen to reduce fogging - .
8) USB3 would have been nice for quicker downloads of large data
9) cost - this is a working camera, should easily pay for itself
10) For my type of work, this camera is an awesome workhorse!
11) D4 benefits every nikon user as the technology will trickle down to the other models.

6 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jan 6, 2012)

It would be nice to know how audible the shutter on the D4 is.

It's hard to use a blimp with manual focus Zeiss lenses, and in fact the D3s is too audibly loud to use in many concert or nightclub settings.

0 upvotes
TheEye
By TheEye (Jan 6, 2012)

Hey, my Oly E-620 has illuminated buttons. Not that those help with low-light performance. Then again, that's a $600 camera versus a $6,000 beast. I hope the D4 is ten times as good!

0 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 7, 2012)

XQD card readers $45 from Sony.

http://www.sony.net/Products/memorycard/en_us/xqd/index.html

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/sony-unveils-new-high-speed-xqd-memory-cards-136787368.html

0 upvotes
Taikonaut
By Taikonaut (Jan 6, 2012)

It looks like uncompressed HDMI video output only does 1080p 30fps which is only useful for web browsers. For filmmakers 24fps would be more useful.

1 upvote
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jan 6, 2012)

Doesn't Adobe Premiere convert 30fps to 24fps?

0 upvotes
Ah Pek
By Ah Pek (Jan 6, 2012)

Looks like the Olympus Pen's "world's fastest AF" will be safe. Only 51 AF points? Bah!

0 upvotes
Mtsuoka
By Mtsuoka (Jan 6, 2012)

yeah Olympus has best Jpeg engine you know, Pen is the best :-)

0 upvotes
Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Jan 6, 2012)

seems like some nikon fanboys (aka trolls) who were amused that canons 1D X has "only" 18 MP are now quite happy with the 16 MP of the D4.

well... that shows how much SUBSTANCE their comments have.

i wonder that nikons D4 is 2 FPS (3 FPS) slower then canons 1D X.

more video stuff improved then anything else.. i hate that.
i don´t need video in my DSLR cameras.
the bad thing is it seems to slow down the improvments in the still image sector.

5 upvotes
Nismo350Z
By Nismo350Z (Jan 6, 2012)

Just like a hypocrite :) Anyway, Nikon has never cared to be ahead in the Mp race, and to see Canon decreasing their count shows that they also care about image quality. It also justifies what Nikon and photo enthusiasts already know - that more Mp doesn't necessarily mean better picture quality.

9 upvotes
Fullframer
By Fullframer (Jan 6, 2012)

Agreed!

0 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jan 6, 2012)

Henry M. Hertz:

Except that Nikon fans actually congratulated Canon on coming to its senses regarding MP count in full frame DSLRs.

1 upvote
larrytusaz
By larrytusaz (Jan 6, 2012)

I agree about the video thing. I do not care for video in SLRs. SLRs are not for video, not even this. SLRs are for photographs, period. SLRs are about single-minded excellence, focusing on ONE thing (photos) & doing it well, not trying to be a Swiss Army Knife. SLRs aren't smartphones, nor (aside from full-time connectivity) should be they.

0 upvotes
AG Ozcebe
By AG Ozcebe (Jan 6, 2012)

@larrytusaz

I disagree with you. Capturing videos and digital images are not nearly as alike as opening a wine and screwing. Actually, I think that the lens quality is much better in a DSLR compared to a pro video recorder, plus it is interchangeable and compatible to any further upgrades! Furthermore, some sit-coms and movie scenes recorded by DSLRs are already currently present. The world is changing, whenever DSLRs get much better processors for recording movies, then they will overpower digital cam-corders. Why having two different instruments, while one can do the other's job better?

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Jan 6, 2012)

@howaboutraw
all i read are complains that nikon is still using a "low resolution" sensor and that nikon landscape shooter want more resolution.

@nismo350z

and then there will be the D800.
and nikon shooter seem to be quiet impressed and happy that it will have 36 MP....

sorry but it makes no sense..... first the complains (from some nikon shooters here) about an 18 MP 1D X sensor and now this 180 degree turn.

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Nismo350Z
By Nismo350Z (Jan 6, 2012)

@Henry M. Hertz

Oh please, I don't see official news or photos of the actual product yet. Of course, everyone would be HAPPY to hear the new version of ANY product might have this or that. But if 36Mp is true (which I doubt) then it may well be something that Nikon was able to successfully implement where Canon may have failed.

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0 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 7, 2012)

@ Henry: really, who cares what YOU need? You seem to be pretty miserable on your own, anyhow.

0 upvotes
riveredger
By riveredger (Jan 6, 2012)

$6000. Please. It's not 2001 anymore.

7 upvotes
riveredger
By riveredger (Jan 6, 2012)

lol, maybe ... but I prefer to say that a fool and his money are soon parted.

0 upvotes
Fullframer
By Fullframer (Jan 6, 2012)

Agreed. Yeah, not sure why they didn't keep it the same $5,199 as the D3S or cheaper. In recent years, usually newer electronics are the same or cheaper.

0 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jan 6, 2012)

riveredger:

Yeah just try getting a D3s for less than 5500 usd. Really good luck with that.

0 upvotes
TheEye
By TheEye (Jan 6, 2012)

Does a D4 come with a gym membership or a discount card for Sherpas-4-Hire?

0 upvotes
unotisto
By unotisto (Jan 6, 2012)

" In recent years, usually newer electronics are the same or cheaper."
Excuse me?

0 upvotes
Lando79
By Lando79 (Jan 6, 2012)

Hey guy’s I’ve been reading your comments on this Camera. It seems there are quite a few of you are disappointed about the D4. It seems to be on the basis of Image Resolution and FPS. Think about what the pros want i.e. the journalists and sports photographers. If I was one, then I would certainly welcome the increased sensitivity to capture images at low light and low resolution… Imagine being abroad in a war zone, the last thing you’re thinking about is sharpness and image details – it’s all about capturing the story. Also, think about uploading a 26 megapixel vs. 16 megapixel image via satellite or 3g connection. It could mean an extra minute to transfer, and if your sports or news shot isn’t sent to the editor on time without hassle – its money lost. This camera makes sense to the pros not us hobbyist.
The camera is more focused about the work flow and post productivity that allow photographers who work in fast paced environments. How many of you were willing to spend £4.5k anyway.

14 upvotes
Taikonaut
By Taikonaut (Jan 6, 2012)

Compare to the 1Dx the D4 is a disappointment. The 1Dx is a full 2 stop better.

0 upvotes
jamriphoto
By jamriphoto (Jan 6, 2012)

Taikonaut: Where are you getting your info that the 1DX is two stops better. Have you got images to prove it or is it just based on specs?

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Mtsuoka
By Mtsuoka (Jan 6, 2012)

I think he means 2fps "better"...

1 upvote
dellaaa
By dellaaa (Jan 6, 2012)

I don't shoot sports or weddings, this to me was a non event.

0 upvotes
Teila Day
By Teila Day (Jan 6, 2012)

Taikonaut: You have to wait and see which camera gives the most from a practical standpoint. I do like the fact that 14 fps can be had with the 1Dx- which is great for shooting dance and action fashion from tripod where the subject is in "action" but over a specified point. 10-12fps I find wonderful no matter what camera it comes from- but am more concerned about the depth of the buffer!

There is no way on the planet that the 1Dx is 2 stops better than the D3s let alone D4, so I think you must've meant 2 fps? or are you talking about the iso range that few people ever even think of using for actual work?

The differences between these two cameras are so minor from what I can tell at this point, that it comes down to what's more important for your specific photography. The D4 by specs alone, is hardly a "let down" for most photographers who are actually in the market for a new pro body.

0 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 7, 2012)

Veddy useful comments overall, thanks, people. BTW...

XQD card readers $45 from Sony.

http://www.sony.net/Products/memorycard/en_us/xqd/index.html

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/sony-unveils-new-high-speed-xqd-memory-cards-136787368.html

0 upvotes
wetsleet
By wetsleet (Jan 6, 2012)

"The immediate giveaway should probably be the inclusion not just of a mic input socket by a headphone output"

should be "...BUT a headpone output" ?

0 upvotes
Rob Rossington
By Rob Rossington (Jan 6, 2012)

I'm very impressed but I must ask..... Where's the metering mode switch? And where have the AE-L/AF-L Buttons gone?

0 upvotes
BrianHalcYoN
By BrianHalcYoN (Jan 6, 2012)

Glad I am not the only one disappointed. I imagine they are now function button choices. Not liking that at all.

Focus point switch, as well...

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Suntan
By Suntan (Jan 6, 2012)

Yeah. I would prefer the metering switch and focus selector switches from the last gen on the back as well.
I use the AE-L/AF-L button a lot to manually turn off the flash. Losing that would take some getting used to.

-Suntan

0 upvotes
spbStan
By spbStan (Jan 6, 2012)

AE-L/AF-L can be assigned to the center button of the small jog buttons for landscape and portrait orientation.
The AF mode switch as been changed to be a button to work with the command wheels. That is the same system used on the D7000 and has been very effective since having the wheels control selection, all camera settings can be saved and recalled in the U1, U2, etc exposure selector. Before, with a fixed mechanical switch, that was not possible, nor was it possible to add more options than the 3. It is a good move for several reasons, speed of making full changes of mode, FP count etc at the same time without moving hand position. It works very well on the D7000.

0 upvotes
unotisto
By unotisto (Jan 6, 2012)

You'd think one would need a button for both functions... Well, I'm missing one on my camera anyway...

0 upvotes
HetFotoAtelier
By HetFotoAtelier (Jan 6, 2012)

2012 The Year of The Olympics And Nikon :-)

1 upvote
Noopz
By Noopz (Jan 6, 2012)

I'll honestly be shocked if I see more black tele's than beige ones...

2 upvotes
louie c
By louie c (Jan 6, 2012)

I always wonder how many of those beige lenses are owned vs. sponsored as one manufacturer's marketing team trumps another...

0 upvotes
Stomie
By Stomie (Jan 6, 2012)

_Yesssssss_!!!.......Wireless Transmitter & web-browser control interface.

2 upvotes
CameraLabTester
By CameraLabTester (Jan 6, 2012)

Top of the line DSLR "super duper features" from Nikon and Canon camps are thinning out...

It's now a battle for adjectives and hyperboles.

5 upvotes
mike kobal
By mike kobal (Jan 6, 2012)

video is just part of our professional life these days, too bad Nikon just doesn't seem to be able to catch up in that department

1 upvote
MPA1
By MPA1 (Jan 6, 2012)

If I want a video camera, I'll buy one!! I want a stills camera....without expensive technology I will never use.

2 upvotes
pdcm
By pdcm (Jan 6, 2012)

All new camera models are likely to include video; it's relatively cheap to include. And video cameras take stills too. So I guess you will never, ever, buy a new camera again.

Actually, I used to feel like this; I rejected the D90 when it came out for the very same reason, but enventually bought one. But I did find it useful for video/audio notes, and particularly for recording location information.

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snake_b
By snake_b (Jan 6, 2012)

Well, considering cameras like the 5dII are now being professionally used to shoot some of the biggest TV shows and movies in the world, it would make sense a but to expand the audience into people who would do videography.

2 upvotes
Joe Ogiba
By Joe Ogiba (Jan 6, 2012)

If you don't want video then get a MF like the Pentax 645D but video is here to stay in DSLRs. I am amazed Canon and Nikon still don't have 1080p60 on any camera or camcorder like Panasonic and Sony.

0 upvotes
WillieG
By WillieG (Jan 6, 2012)

Video isn't all that cheap to include, especially 1080P at 60fps. A lot of work goes into the implementation of video. I'd like to see Nikon produce a D4 variant without any video at all and with a correspondingly lower price. I suspect they'd drop the video model when they see how few people are willing to pay extra for it. Personally I don't want it and I never use it. And it seems that a lot of others agree.

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Photographer_C
By Photographer_C (Jan 6, 2012)

Where is the 4k video capability ?

1 upvote
gillamoto
By gillamoto (Jan 6, 2012)

the pentax r&d man said that their future dslr flagship will have this feature. will be released this year. the interview published in a japanese magazine.

2 upvotes
Martin Datzinger
By Martin Datzinger (Jan 6, 2012)

Can the lock lever be programmed to lock out the dials as well, in order to provide the same functionality the old and now gone lock-button has? If not and if the dials aren't sufficient stiffly sprung to prevent accidential change, it is a bit hard for me to accept this as a professional camera at all. If yes: Great news! The same for any future Nikon and a corresponding firmware update for my D7000 pretty please!!!

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tbower
By tbower (Jan 6, 2012)

I've been shooting a D3s for two years now and I thought Nikon would be hard-pressed to top it. Looks like they came up with another winner. The only thing I'd watch for is noise levels with the higher MP count. I'll be looking forward to the review and samples.

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Bob from Plymouth
By Bob from Plymouth (Jan 6, 2012)

Sorry Harold1968 I think your comments are premature. Shall we wait for some proper test results before we condemn the D4.

Nikon will have done their market research, the days of "this is what we've built for you" are long gone. These days they listen to customer feedback and they wouldn't be launching a product that nobody wanted or one with inferior performance.

4 upvotes
harold1968
By harold1968 (Jan 6, 2012)

sorry, 16mp on a professional camera does not cut it
Canon and Nikon are like supertankers. They have heard photographers demanding better quality higher ISO for years so now have both delivered low pixel cameras for their flagships.
Many of us most shoot at base, or just above, ISO and want maximum detail.
Are we now being pushed to medium format ?
I hope Canon and Nikon have high pixel flagships up their sleeves.

1 upvote
increments
By increments (Jan 6, 2012)

Relax, the D800 is coming. Rumoured to be 36MP, you should be able to live with that.

7 upvotes
SeanBell
By SeanBell (Jan 6, 2012)

So why dont you buy a D3X? 24MP! The D4 is aimed at press/sports/wildlife photographers.I prefer to have the hi ISO capabilities as it suits my work needs.The D3X is the studio/landscape camera for low ISO quality.

8 upvotes
snake_b
By snake_b (Jan 6, 2012)

The MP wars sucked from the beginning. If harold wants, he can always get a compact with a 1/2.3 chip running 16+ MP. That should help him find his way.

0 upvotes
Habitant
By Habitant (Jan 6, 2012)

Two points: firstly, the size of the file matters less than the quality of information in it, so MP comparisons are largely moot and inconclusive. Update your approach: it's not like comparing Velvia to RDP.

Secondly: if you're working professionally, then you shouldn't be comparing a £5K camera to a £20K. Sub-point: we should stop feeding the MP/equipment wars which are simply crushing us financially.

Clients aren't paying more for more information, therefore we either need to start charging more for file creation above (I suggest 35mb-A3) and I suggest that the spec of this camera is poised at the edge of financially viable for a typical pro on a typical job. You can, after all, shoot a billboard with a D3/D4 EOS1, so...

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MasterOfGoingFaster
By MasterOfGoingFaster (Jan 6, 2012)

> "sorry, 16mp on a professional camera does not cut it"

It most certainly does for event/news/sports photography. This is not a studio/landscape camera. If you needed one, you should have purchased a D3X or 5DMkII.

1 upvote
Fullframer
By Fullframer (Jan 6, 2012)

>sorry, 16mp on a professional camera does not cut it

You are right, Nikon makes a 24mp (D3X) body, LOL! However even my lowly 12mp from my D3 and D700 (according to some people) is good enough for my sports, journalism, etc.

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WillieG
By WillieG (Jan 6, 2012)

If Nikon follows the same pattern they have in the past they will release a D4X in the near future. This camera should be the higher resolution D4 variant like the D3X was to the D3.

It's the quality of the photo that counts and not the number of megapixels. Remember photographers flocked back to Nikon for the 12MP D3 even though Canon had higher MP cameras.

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nakeddork
By nakeddork (Jan 6, 2012)

There's a $13,000 hasselbald now. That's in highend DSLR range. If you are really need the superior resolution, amazing clarity, and razor thin bokeh you should be using medium format anyway.

1 upvote
Sweeper29
By Sweeper29 (Jan 7, 2012)

Well stated "Masterof..". I get 'killer' event pics in low light with the D3s. Great concert coverage, sports event camera! So I come from the opposite direction - Why on earth do I need to trade up for the few mps when clients are happy with what i present? If your shooting for Playboy then get the Canon and the 85mm f1.2 so you can blow the photo up to billboard size. Its not in my strategy...

1 upvote
tbower
By tbower (Jan 7, 2012)

Exactly, and folks complaining about the price seem to forget that the D3x was US8,200 when it came out.

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Stanchung
By Stanchung (Jan 7, 2012)

Yet another brilliant too little MP comment. I am happy my productivity in processing without burden of overly high MP. I need RAW versions of different MP sizes like what Canon does. That to me is what I want. Some events like birthdays and shooting for friends don't require anything more than 10MP-it's only for FB or 10R pics at the most. Spending time touching up & saving files & making backups is a bore & productivity downer for typical 1K amount of pics event shooting. Wake up Nikon!

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Thaksa
By Thaksa (Jan 6, 2012)

Let's see more detial in my album

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.3007663311837.154035.1270061729&type=1&notif_t=like

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