Hands-on with Nikon V2

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Nikon announced two major products at this year's Photo Plus Expo tradeshow in New York - a new constant-aperture F4 70-200mm zoom for its range of DX and FX-format DSLRs, and the V2, which replaces the V1 as the flagship in Nikon's 1 System. The CX-format V2 features an all-new 14MP CMOS sensor and a built-in flash, a proper exposure mode dial (oh, happy day...) but retains the same innovative Hybrid AF system and 1.4 million-dot EVF as its predecessor.

We caught up with Nikon on the first morning of the show, and managed to get some time alone with its new high-end 1 series camera and 18.5mm F1.8 prime - the fastest lens in the system (making it equivalent to a 50mm lens in terms of field-of-view and F4.9 in terms of depth-of-field). 

Our first impressions, seeing the camera 'in the flesh' for the first time, are that it isn't as ugly as it looks in photographs. Yes, it looks like a Sony NEX with mumps. But the lumps and bumps that characterize its external design are much less objectionable when you actually pick the camera up and start using it. We know this might be controversial, but we might actually prefer how the V2 looks compared to the V1...

This view shows the V2 without a lens mounted, and its 1" (13.2 x 8.8mm) CX sensor exposed for all the world to see. Much more businesslike in appearance than the J2 and even its predecessor the V1, the V2's lumps and bumps are functional, if not terribly attractive.

The protruding grip allows for an unusually firm hold (by MILC standards) and the faux-prism hump above the lens houses an EVF and a pop-up flash. 

Another thing that isn't all that apparent from press photographs is how small the V2 is. We didn't have competitive mirrorless cameras nearby to compare it to directly, but it's about the same size as the Olympus PEN Mini, if you ignore the viewfinder hump. The view of the exposed 1-inch CX sensor, above, should give you some idea. In terms of how it feels in the hand, the V2 reminded us of a slightly miniaturized Sony NEX-7, more than anything else. The same super-thin body, similarly nice metal construction, and a deep, rubberized handgrip.

Other than the pronounced hump, the 14MP V2 is one of the smaller mirrorless ILCs. Our model has pretty dainty hands (and charming nail varnish) and as you can see from this view, the V2 isn't much of a handful, even for her. Viewed from the back, the V2 is very different to its predecessor, The control layout has been overhauled, and enthusiasts will appreciate the exposure mode dial on the top-plate, and the control dial at upper-right. 

The rear of the V2 is quite different from the V1, and actually, rather NEX-like as well. It's dominated by a large LCD screen and integrated control dial/four-way controller, but unlike many of its competitors, the V2's rear LCD screen is fixed rather than articulated. New to the V2 is the vertical strip of buttons on the left of the screen, replacing the dense cluster of control points which surround the 4-way controller on the V1.

The V1's rear-plate mode dial has been deleted completely, to be replaced by a 'proper' exposure mode dial, complete with PASM positions, which can be found on the top of the camera - exactly where an enthusiast would expect to find it. Even better than this, the V1's sharp little control toggle has also been removed, and replaced by a more traditional control dial. 

The V2 is Nikon's most DSLR-like 1 System camera yet, and features about the most generously-proportioned hand grip that we can remember seeing outside of the realm of DSLRs.   The control layout of the V2 has been completely overhauled compared to its predecessor the V1. There's an exposure mode dial on the top, and to the right, a control dial which replaces the fiddly up/down toggle on the V1.

The V2 still has a proprietary 'multi accessory port' connector, limiting flash choice to the SB-N5 or new, more powerful, bounce-able SB-N7.

With the camera held to the eye, there's no novelty. The view is the same as you'll get through the EVF on the older V1, because it's the same viewfinder. That's no bad thing though. Although not class-leading, the 1.4 million dot display (800 x 600 RGB pixels) built into the V2 is bright, contrasty and detailed. There's a diopter wheel on the left, for those of us with less than perfect eyesight. 

The model that we handled is unfinished - Nikon reps were keen to stress that it might not perform quite as well as the final shipping cameras, but we're happy to report that with the fast 18.5mm prime attached, autofocus seems extremely fast and positive, even in the poor light of a tradeshow meeting room. The bigger the aperture, the more effective the V2's Hybrid AF system (which uses fast on-sensor phase-detection in good light, falling back on contrast-detection when illumination gets low) should be, and that certainly seems to hold true for this new prime. We should have a production sample of both camera and lens soon, and look forward to doing some real-world shooting. 

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TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (Oct 27, 2012)

There's a saying that one of my marketing teachers said that has always stuck with me.

"If you don't get the commercial, you're not the target market."

I especially remember this when I see one of those funky posters in the subway that, "to me", seem "too cluttered", "too messy", and "too disorganized". Looking more closely I see that the product is meant for a "lot younger" target market and have to admit to myself that I'm just getting "too old". [grin]

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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (Oct 28, 2012)

Or maybe the ones making the commercial is not all that good.

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bb42
By bb42 (Oct 27, 2012)

A smaller sensor makes sense, it provides more depth-of-field and smaller sizes and weights for body and lens. But then, as you need a bag anyway, and you cope with inferior IQ - you'd also want a longer zoom range, like the new class of larger-sensor compacts (LX7, P7700 etc.).
If you still have to buy one extra lens for each wideangle and tele, the whole approach make little sense to me.

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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (Oct 27, 2012)

Ugly?

I have now looked at this camera in several pictures several times while reading about it here. And ... I cant see that it is ugly. Or at least not ... THAT ugly. I think its rather cute. Not maybe an award winning design. But ... who cares?

Its a new Nikon 1 camera with better grip and a VF and faster shooting. Thats all.

And the VF has to be somewhere. You can then either (1) decrease the size of the LCD, (2) increase the size of the entire body or (3) out the VF in a hump. Which one do you prefer the least?

Just so you get a reality check. The absolutely minimal size of a camera body with both a 3 inch LCD and a VF in the body is a NEX7. No matter how small the sensor is.

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olyflyer
By olyflyer (Oct 27, 2012)

Actually, the VF is not the cause of the hump, the flash is. Even the V1 has EVF and does not have the same hump because unfortunately it has no pop-up flash. The V1 is smaller because it has no flash, but it has the same display and the same EVF.

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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (Oct 28, 2012)

You are partly right.

http://camerasize.com/compare/#392,123

But, another reason for smaller hump on V1 is that V1 is bigger.

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olyflyer
By olyflyer (Oct 28, 2012)

Oh, I see... I didn't actually compare the two in size. Thanks for pointing that out.

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victorenglund
By victorenglund (Oct 27, 2012)

Holy **** that's an ugly camera...

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Photomonkey
By Photomonkey (Oct 27, 2012)

If you are buying it as bling I suppose you are right.

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victorenglund
By victorenglund (Oct 27, 2012)

Well I'm certainly not buying it for the lenses or the shallow depth of field :-) All joking aside it actually looks pretty much like a super zoom bridge camera. The Pentax X-5 comes to mind.

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CollBaxter
By CollBaxter (Oct 27, 2012)

Nice looking camera. It looks like a tool and not a fashion accessory to mach your nail polish ( This one does match nicely though) . Built in EVF , nice grip a down scaled proper looking camera. Not something that looks like it needs a job and to grow up a bit and get out of their mothers basement. I wonder if the CAF is further improved on this model as it seems as if Nikon are the only ones to have got it right on MILC so far. One of the things that would be nice is a standard hot shoe.

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olyflyer
By olyflyer (Oct 27, 2012)

I agree with you, and I can not for my life understand why Nikon continues this stupidity with the flash hot shoe. It is one big idiotic mistake in my opinion to invent the wheel. With a standard hot shoe it could have been a real nice upgrade from the V1, but now... :(

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andros2k5
By andros2k5 (Oct 27, 2012)

Can't understand Nikon 1 line, its all-around lens 10-100 is slow (one of the slowest with it's f4,5-5,6) and as bulky and heavy as the AF-S 18-200 VR... Olympus equivalent is half the weight and a lot smaller (not considering it has o cover a near 2 times larger sensor area).Nikon V1 image quality was far from its mirrorles rival, now we have 16MP, sure we need it ? Perhaps leave it at 10MP and improving IQ would have been a better choice...

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iamthenewguy
By iamthenewguy (Oct 27, 2012)

The 10-100mm that you are comparing is mainly for video. For someone like me who doesn't need smooth zooming then yes, it's way too big and expensive. But for me, I just use my 10mm the majority of the time and it's pretty easy to carry the little 30-110mm as well just in case I do need a method of zoom other than my legs.

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Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (Oct 27, 2012)

Barney Britton have nice hands with charming nail varnish. :D

Camera still ugly but at least it is fast.

BTW, I am surprised DP can afford a model. Usually it is just the reviewer's wife/girlfriend.

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Pat Cullinan Jr
By Pat Cullinan Jr (Oct 27, 2012)

If you people had a nose like mine, you wouldn't be throwing around "ugly" with such liberality. And I'm not too tickled about my tentacle either.

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ThomasSwitzerland
By ThomasSwitzerland (Oct 27, 2012)

Find that this camera is a smart and useful move by Nikon.
Among the large gear we want a pocket able camera. Just easily getting along and making reasonable pictures. This V2 fills the growing gap between cell phone cameras and large traditional cameras. Ever better technology solutions will small sensors let shine.
Thank you, Nikon, for consequently building new roads to photographic flexibility.

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JMZ48
By JMZ48 (Oct 27, 2012)

Actualy - the "looks" is OK and preferable to V1 in my opinion. V2 is designed as high-end P&S with it's presumably very good (enough) with electronic automatic controls.
For me it would be desirable to have in addition few switches for fast manual setups, as auto-mode is not always right in all circumstances. Maybe V3 will get there next year.

Your coments are perfectly right. My first thought was to have that size camera to be paired with 70-300VRII. I'm glad to hear you have good experience with this setup. So far I did not see any published pictures from V1 with 70-300VRII, and I would like to ask you, if you can post here few pictures taken with this setup? Also, you may want send note to me with the picture or two? - thank you, kenbass.

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kenbass
By kenbass (Oct 27, 2012)

I wonder how many people complaining about looks and it will never take good pictures has even shot pictures with a V1. Try putting a F mount lens on a V1 and go shoot some pics before complaining it will never take good pics. And as for looks of the camera. I have never had anyone say anything one way or the other about the looks of my gripped D700. Who cares what it looks like as long as it takes good pictures. Who cares what anyone else thinks what the camera looks like. Get over it.

I have a V1 that takes great pictures especially for wildlife. I use a 70-300 VR lens on it and I have a 810MM setup that is great for wildlife. It also takes great pictures with the kit lenses and all of my f mount lenses.

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fotokeena
By fotokeena (Oct 27, 2012)

"Get over it", it's you that need to get over it.

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 27, 2012)

Excellent post kenbass ... don't pay any attention to the color coordinated hipster juveniles in the crowd.

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markeast
By markeast (Oct 27, 2012)

Ha ha - Spot on kenbass ...

I nearly fell into that trap once myself when buying a Lumix - I'd sorta had in my mind I'd be buying a black camera, but when the sales guy said "We only have the silver ones on stock" I actually found myself hesitating for a half second before I remembered the purpose of it was to take pictures, not pose for them.

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kucink132
By kucink132 (Oct 31, 2012)

i try to shoot picture with V1, meh, it looks flat, i'd rather go with my pocket-friendly iphone

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Shunda77
By Shunda77 (Dec 23, 2012)

" i'd rather go with my pocket-friendly iphone"
Would you? that's just super.
I hear play dough is fun too!!

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mark murphy
By mark murphy (Oct 26, 2012)

So the F Mount has been around since 1959 and still going strong (FX and DX), now we see the 'CX' Mount around these 'digital toy' cameras. I'm reminded of being assured by Kodak in the mid 90's that the way forward was APS.

Whilst 'currently' vested in DX, I will move 'back' to FX (D600/800) once the dust has settled, though Mirrorless DX seems the real way to go in the future, not CX.

If Nikon ever gets it's act together with a D400 I might easily be persuaded to stay DX.

Yes I'm an Affam (Affluent Amateur) - Nikon please don't forget how many of us there are :-)

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shaocaholica
By shaocaholica (Oct 26, 2012)

Looks like a baby F3AF.

http://apphotnum.free.fr/images/nikonF3AF.L.jpg

Thats pretty cool.

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Shunda77
By Shunda77 (Oct 26, 2012)

This camera looks gorgeous to me, it looks fantastic in 'real world shots', but then, I value function over form so perhaps that's what I'm really seeing.

I predict this camera will become very popular once the posers drop away and real photographers gain experience with it.

The only problem is the price.

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Raw Images Raw Talk
By Raw Images Raw Talk (Oct 26, 2012)

posers? Oh, and the remaining users are to be considered the panacea of photography talent? What kind of a Bozoian comment is that?

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Shunda77
By Shunda77 (Oct 27, 2012)

First poser has taken the bait..............

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emtx
By emtx (Oct 27, 2012)

for that price you can get much more functionality....so where and who is posing?

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TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (Oct 27, 2012)

HeHeHe. But its true. I've had a few people come up and ask me if camera X or Y was a good camera. I ask them what they like about it and they've said, "because it looks good". No lie. [grin]

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nawknai
By nawknai (Oct 26, 2012)

It's not a "pretty" camera, but it's not that ugly either.

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Spectro
By Spectro (Oct 26, 2012)

for oce I can say function over form. People wanted a flash and a vf, more grip for the right hand and they got it. Still an eyes sore, but it is more functional then the first.

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BobYIL
By BobYIL (Oct 26, 2012)

Dear Nikon,

You offer the 24MP APS-C size fully equipped D3200 with kit lens + 55-200 zoom for $796 and this point & shoot V2 with kit lens for $896. Hard to understand..

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plasnu
By plasnu (Oct 26, 2012)

You can't compare a camera full of new technology and a dinosaur which is disappearing from the earth.

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InTheMist
By InTheMist (Oct 26, 2012)

...but when the "dinosaur" is better in every conceivable way?

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Phoque
By Phoque (Oct 26, 2012)

... except size.

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Raw Images Raw Talk
By Raw Images Raw Talk (Oct 27, 2012)

well, they are intended for different user profiles, right? A low end DSLR with a limited feature set isn't very appealing to those look for a diminutive feature rich second generation 1 inch sensor camera that has uses which a DSLR simply won't work as well.

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G Davidson
By G Davidson (Oct 27, 2012)

I think it's asking too much, too, but the price will go down. This is really apples and oranges, as this camera may have a smaller sensor, but has many features that would appeal to pros- the ultra-fast AF, evf, crop of larger lenses, durable build yet small size.

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waxwaine
By waxwaine (Oct 26, 2012)

Pentax Q and Q10 have Focuse Peaking via firmware upgrade(free). Also you can mount on them any lens on the earth, with metering and image stabilization. And the best MILC interface ever. DPr will never review them.

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emtx
By emtx (Oct 26, 2012)

...and if we look at the measurements than
Pentax K01: 122 x 79 x 58 mm (4.8 x 3.11 x 2.28")
Nikon V2 (source Nikon USA)
Width 4.2 in. (107.8mm), Height 3.2 in. (81.6mm), Depth 1.8 in. (45.9mm) Is this pocketable?!

It does have a EVF, but small sensor comparing to K01 16MP APS-C, which quality is closing to K5.

Nikon camera is - I would say ugly. K01 is a design piece - you love it or hate it.

Nikon is 250$ expensive and how many lenses are available?

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Raw Images Raw Talk
By Raw Images Raw Talk (Oct 27, 2012)

The K-01 is an Edsel-like disaster for Pentax.

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MrSkelter
By MrSkelter (Oct 27, 2012)

Most People who appreciate good design hate the Edsel. Many people who appreciate good design love the K-01.

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emtx
By emtx (Oct 27, 2012)

K 01 is still nicer than V2 - for me at least. And if we talk about functionality, aka pic. quality, than K01, is I suppose, far better than disaster.

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pgreen
By pgreen (Oct 27, 2012)

Could you please explain what you meant by "you can mount on them any lens on the earth, with metering and image stabilization?" I just checked the Pentax website and noticed no indication of anything like this, but you seem to know a lot about these cameras.

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lutz
By lutz (Oct 26, 2012)

The first generation 1 series cameras were ugly too - and had a horrible user interface. They sold well.
If you have a name like Nikon, perhaps it pays to stand out from the crowd - why NOT make the new ones even uglier?

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filmrescue
By filmrescue (Oct 26, 2012)

Why no flip screen? So many cool cameras out there now that I don't want because you can't move the direction the screen points. Frustrating...seems such a simple feature to add and for those that get used to getting the camera way from in front of their face, it is indispensable.

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57even
By 57even (Oct 26, 2012)

I drive an ugly car (by most peoples reckoning) but it's the only one that meets all my functional needs, fits in my undersized garage and can still cruise economically all day at 80MPH when I head to the South of France.

This camera has a unique blend of function, size and performance. If it's what you need, its looks don't matter. For a lot of family photographers this is just about perfect - everything from kids sports to holiday snaps and family videos without needing an SLR or a camcorder.

None of the other CSC cameras come close to Nikon 1's abilities regarding action photography and few match it's all-round video capability either.

Sure, it may not meet any of YOUR needs, but why is that interesting?

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dark goob
By dark goob (Oct 26, 2012)

It remains to be seen if it actually works for action. J1/V1 were only so-so for continuous AF accuracy, and the tracking AF interface was very kludgy (have to press OK multiple times on the back to engage tracking every time). I found the Sony A37 or A57 to be MUCH better at sports/action continuous AF accuracy, not even close, even though they're bigger cameras. If that's what you're shooting then you should get something at the same price that does the job, not compromise just to save an ounce.

But where the J1/V1 beats anything is shooting video with electronic zoom control with the 10-100mm, having the ability to shoot full res stills during the video could be huge for some purposes. The V1 also has better battery life than any other CSC due to having a massive EN-EL15. For $500 it's a good deal.

V2 is interesting but I'll reserve my judgement till I can test how accurate that AF actually is, not just what they claim...

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57even
By 57even (Oct 27, 2012)

Well the S37/57 are SLR-type cameras, but with a bit of practice I managed to shoot quite a few action sets on a J1 with reasonable success (in terms of frames in focus). It's not as good as a D700, no. Wasn't expecting that. But it is much more successful than a NEX7.

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Ben O Connor
By Ben O Connor (Oct 26, 2012)

When its lens is off it looks like a big man with a Small "sensor" :) well lets be serious.

This sensor might catch very fast objects with possible high burst rates. And illumunate the picture with even an ordinary fast lens.

And for the ones, who has any of Nikon´s 400 mm F 2.0 - 5.0 lenses + Adapter combination

They will own a great " TELESCOPE ".

Sadly, 1 Series are a bit on the shadow of their sensor size. But for the people who knows what they need, what they looking for. Its a tree s shadow o rest under in the African Savanah

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rfsIII
By rfsIII (Oct 26, 2012)

No one ever complained about the tiny film size of the Minox. People just shot with them and were cool with the results. Think of this camera a Minox for the 21st century.

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tt321
By tt321 (Oct 26, 2012)

It would have been nice if the camera is also MInox-sized...

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fotokeena
By fotokeena (Oct 27, 2012)

Exactly!

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DaveMarx
By DaveMarx (Oct 26, 2012)

I get it - with no test results in hand, no sample shots, what can we debate other than appearance? But "ugly" vs."beautiful," "chunky" vs. "sleek?" Taste and style are manufactured, they're not inherent. The old, "Beauty is in the mind of the beholder."

Some folks want a camera that says, "I'm a serious photographer." Resemblance to gear that's already considered "serious" or "professional" is mandatory. Others will think it's sexy once Ashton Kutcher starts modeling the thing in TV ads.

The large, bulging hump on top goes back to the old Nikon F's Photomic viewfinder, a huge kludge for holding then-bulky electronics. The F's original, meter-less viewfinder was a tiny, pyramid-shaped bump above the main camera body. For a while a Photomic was nearly embarrassing, an admission that one wanted built-in exposure-making help. Until a fair number of pros were seen using it. While the prism hump shrank once electronics were built into the body, big is still considered cool.

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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (Oct 26, 2012)

The test result will not show anything interesting. Except for the different design, this camera will perform just as good/bad as the other Nikon 1 cameras.

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JEROME NOLAS
By JEROME NOLAS (Oct 26, 2012)

They can do it because they can! They are Nikon, uncrushable, undestroyable, unsinkable! Nobody in the right mind would create this, or maybe it's a camera for dumb Frankenstein....

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M Lammerse
By M Lammerse (Oct 26, 2012)

The predecessor is a popular camera in Japan. I bet this one will sell well also. It looks a bit like a mini dslr...the 'cuteness' factor is absolutely gone with this one, might be a good choice and focus more at the serious photographer in both design and added functionality) with this version.

They made a broader gap between the V and J series with this newer version, good decision I think.

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Nov 3, 2012)

nikon corp is 1/10th the size of canon, they just make good products thats why they can do what they do

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LamarLamb
By LamarLamb (Oct 26, 2012)

The styling reminds me of the F4, although not executed as elegantly.

http://www.lamarlamb.com/On-Film/Details/13125028_qhPVGx#!i=951819052&k=3ZPTJG6

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Sir Punk
By Sir Punk (Oct 26, 2012)

you have to show the model's face!

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peevee1
By peevee1 (Oct 26, 2012)

Face? Learn how it is done:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/review-gallery/5746/olympus-om-d-e-m5-camera-preview/12#image

;)

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dark goob
By dark goob (Oct 26, 2012)

These are great for video and casual stills. The slowdown feature is really sweet. Different market category than other mirrorless cams, not sure why everyone feels compelled to compare it to OM-D or NEX-7 since they are totally different market segments.

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prometheus10
By prometheus10 (Oct 26, 2012)

Because they are in the same price range. If this were half the price, I'd totally agree.

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iamthenewguy
By iamthenewguy (Oct 27, 2012)

Just because two things are the same price doesn't mean they are directly comparable. Comparing a $30K mini-van and a $30K sedan wouldn't make any sense. They are both vehicles to get you from point A to point B but have different functions, looks, features, and target markets.

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Panasonicus
By Panasonicus (Oct 26, 2012)

I was a Nikon user for decades but find this camera series puzzling. Instead, I opted for a Panasonic G3 which is not much larger but with a much larger sensor and a huge array of available moderate and high end optics from Panasonic/Leica/Olympus. Most of which is MIJ whereas Nikon seem to be drifting much more toward Made in China. Am I prejudiced in favour of MIJ. Absolutely. Sorry but Nikon have lost and not regained a very long standing customer with this over-priced effort.

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Nov 3, 2012)

you opted for the g3 before this camera was even available?
sometimes i think most of the people here just want to tell everybody what gear they use, no matter if it makes sense or not

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Bill Randall
By Bill Randall (Nov 9, 2012)

After reading how ugly some people think the V2 is, I thought I would mention I really like it. It appears to be both functional and good looking. However, I fault Nikon for not designing it for use with their standard flash units.

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Oct 26, 2012)

Humps, bumps, knobs, grips, wrinkles.

Blood hounds, bulldogs, old trucks, and most of their owners aren't beauties either, but many people are fond of them nonetheless.

The camera could have displayed quite nicely in coarse, chapped hands with plenty of callus, scars, and cracked nails.

Putting appearances aside, the real questions should be what the V2 offers that one can't find on a GF5 m4/3 type camera with a larger sensor, which costs less and is no bigger, or a smaller RX100 with the same sensor, which also costs a bit less.

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Studor13
By Studor13 (Oct 26, 2012)

It offers the obvious. That is, the ability to use a bunch of Nikkors.

As someone (and there are lots of us) who owns a D300 as well as a D800 the V2 is just the sort of thing to take on holidays and for decent family snaps.

The V2 plus the new 70-200mm f4 would be a great combo with the D800 and 16-35mm for the times when I do a bit more serious stuff, such as covering a skiing event of a triathlon.

Nikon knows exactly what they are doing.

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Nov 3, 2012)

i think it doesnt matter if you shoot nikon or not. every single lens you own would behave completely different.
iam a nikon shooter myself, but what makes my camera big are the lenses, so why would i pick a smaller camera and attach the same sized lenses that i carry in the very same bag that i would carry when taking my d700 with me?

i think when considering small cameras to acompany dslrs it makes no sense to even think about mixing them with the dslr system, because it automatically makes them gearthursty :)

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hiplnsdrftr
By hiplnsdrftr (Oct 26, 2012)

Here are the specs compared to GX1, NEX7 and EOS-M...

http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=nikon_v2&products=panasonic_dmcgx1&products=sony_nex7&products=canon_eosm

The only thing that stands out is the 15 fps. And I guess the fact that it has a viewfinder unlike the Panasonic or the Canon.

Considering the much smaller sensor, the Nikon is not significantly more compact than any of the others.

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Robert Morris
By Robert Morris (Oct 26, 2012)

You are also missing one of the other very strong features of this cam DSLR focusing speed and focus tracking that WORKS with the high burst rate. And only the Nex 7 has a built in EVF, EOS-M is a joke unless all you do is landscapes or people sitting completely still. Also like the Nex 7 it is the only one you mention that has a real grip. One more if you go to small it make the cameras ergonomics less usable for a lot of people.

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sandy b
By sandy b (Oct 26, 2012)

OK, so what your saying is its smaller, it does 15fps with AF, and it has a viewfinder. Sounds like an endorsement to me.

0 upvotes
Robert Morris
By Robert Morris (Oct 26, 2012)

Maybe, I was disappointed with the V1 and got tired of waiting for Nikon to get it act together with their mirrorless camera. If this was out a year ago I would have probably been all over it. I have chosen the Nex system as my light travel and every day cam for now and am very happy with it even more so that Sony and others are getting the lenses rounded out. So I am having fun with my Nikon primes on the Nex and will pass on this one for now.

2 upvotes
witne2s
By witne2s (Oct 26, 2012)

big step forward.
but it got uglier

2 upvotes
marike6
By marike6 (Oct 26, 2012)

Aesthetics are subjective, but to me looks like a small, but totally modern DSLR. And all the focus on it's appearance loses sight of the fact that it's packed with cutting edge technology including accurate PDAF, a huge buffer and a class leading 15 fps. Nikon has always excelled at making cameras with superb predictive tracking. Add the 2.7x crop factor and good IQ to these performance gains, and you have a nature/sports shooters dream fun machine.

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/568/156/html/024.jpg.html

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9 upvotes
AlpCns2
By AlpCns2 (Oct 26, 2012)

These intelligent comments, such as this one, are really like a breath of fresh air. Thank you.

6 upvotes
Tord S Eriksson
By Tord S Eriksson (Oct 29, 2012)

This camera means business - thanks for the link:
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/568/156/html/024.jpg.html

I use my V1 mostly with a VR 70-300, though ;-)!

1 upvote
hiplnsdrftr
By hiplnsdrftr (Oct 26, 2012)

Here it is compared to NEX7-

http://camerasize.com/compare/#392,33

0 upvotes
Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (Oct 26, 2012)

Look at the mount size difference. Then imagine a lens, preferable the standard zoom.

2 upvotes
panos_m
By panos_m (Oct 26, 2012)

I believe Nikon CX is an interesting system. Good enough IQ from the 1" sensor. Small and light lenses. Nikon seems to support the mount (4? bodies and 9? lenses on the way). What I don't like much is the trend toward tiny bodies. V2 is smaller than P7700 in every dimension except the height due to the EVF. Is the smaller always better?
P7700 vs V2 size: http://j.mp/PvsS1g

1 upvote
Joel Benford
By Joel Benford (Oct 26, 2012)

Does it still have the "mandatory image review" issue?

Is the programme mode still wedded to low ISO and shutter speeds?

This actually matters, the hell with the wth looks.

1 upvote
Alex Studnicki
By Alex Studnicki (Oct 26, 2012)

Low ISO problem was addressed in the latest V1 firmware update so I assume V2 does not suffer from it. Image review can be cancelled by pressing half-way release button after the shot, but I agree it should be optional in V2.

2 upvotes
Joel Benford
By Joel Benford (Oct 26, 2012)

Thanks for the info Alec.

[I'd heard about the half-press, but it seems a bit too clunky for me. I'll be a lot more interested if the V2 resolves the issue altogether.]

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0 upvotes
panos_m
By panos_m (Oct 26, 2012)

Image review issue most probably has been resolved:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50135612

4 upvotes
Joel Benford
By Joel Benford (Oct 26, 2012)

Thank you also Panos, that's very promising news.

0 upvotes
zinedi
By zinedi (Oct 26, 2012)

Are the big players Ca/Ni/So so stupid or deaf and blind? Don't they see the way that Fuji shows in mirorless field? For cell-phones and similar toys there's Apple and Korea toy companies. Have you really understand what PHOTOGRAPHERS want?
Try think about this :
- big sensor => excellent high ISO IQ
- fast prime lens and zoom = > excellent IQ
- excellent viewfinder
- through 100 years' proved handling design - range-finder style
...
It's so simple.

3 upvotes
R Thornton
By R Thornton (Oct 26, 2012)

Exactly! And pricing it in the D7000 territory means it must outgun D7000 to make sense. No chance in hell! Looks aside, what is the point?

5 upvotes
Rachotilko
By Rachotilko (Oct 26, 2012)

Well, how do you know this thing has low IQ. From sensor size ? C'mon, there are other factors.

This thing wipes the floor with the 5 years old APS-C sized sensors IQ-wise. And don't tell me those were unsuficient for quality photography.

Of course, todays APS-C have far surpassed it, but if you get D60-ish performance from this 1V2 thing, I'd say it is good enough.

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5 upvotes
Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Oct 26, 2012)

Then get a D7000 or something. But DSLRs require rather big, heavy lenses, and the Fuji mirrorless models are fixed lens or rather expensive.

0 upvotes
gl2k
By gl2k (Oct 26, 2012)

The V2 is what the V1 should have been from the very beginning. An enthusiast compact model with all the creative possibilities of a DSLR but at smaller size.
Well done Nikon.

15 upvotes
Zoeff
By Zoeff (Oct 26, 2012)

Yey! A camera that the masses find super ugly. Quite suggestive that the designers of an MILC actually prioritized function of form for once. :-)

2 upvotes
Alex Studnicki
By Alex Studnicki (Oct 26, 2012)

I really like this idea - create camera that only serious photographers would buy while keeping away all those who wear it as a pretty accessory on their neck only for a show-off. BTW, in one research a group of kids were asked to pick a favorite car from a line of all kinds of sport/power cars. Almost all of them picked the ugliest, meanest car.

2 upvotes
Hauer
By Hauer (Oct 26, 2012)

Remember the ugly duckling that turned into a swan?!

0 upvotes
GirinoFumetto
By GirinoFumetto (Oct 26, 2012)

Yes, but the swan I prefer has no need to turn into a swan.

0 upvotes
HSway
By HSway (Oct 26, 2012)

It’s nice Nikon sent a message about the lenses ahead. I have little doubt the sensor and the camera will perform superbly.

I also think it’s a basic mistake Nikon went with this small sensor size. And I don’t like the design no matter how I try. It’s putting off just to look at it.

Again though, the design, the sensor and the overall performance optimization does make sense and goes together.

If this is the only mirrorless design Nikon will attempt, it’s a double basic mistake for going with this style and sensor size.
To whom it suits I am sure they will have a great CX performer in many respects if not all.
Hynek

0 upvotes
HBowman
By HBowman (Oct 26, 2012)

This is just dumb and ugly ... They wanted to mimic the look of the OM-D ?? They failed miserably !! OMG lol

Come on Nikon what are you doing ?? you, such an historic enterprise, serious, solid ... look at what you are forced to do :D

Even your high end gear have problems pffff shame and pity !

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1 upvote
hikerdoc
By hikerdoc (Oct 26, 2012)

but it lacks your beloved foveon sensor and can therefore take a useable photo beyond ISO 100

5 upvotes
HBowman
By HBowman (Oct 26, 2012)

Beyond ISO 1600 you want to say ??

1 upvote
Ken Johnes
By Ken Johnes (Oct 26, 2012)

how old are you boman?

1 upvote
beavertown
By beavertown (Oct 26, 2012)

This camera grows on you.

You will love it gradually.

0 upvotes
Pat Cullinan Jr
By Pat Cullinan Jr (Oct 27, 2012)

I love it! I love it!

0 upvotes
mpetersson
By mpetersson (Oct 26, 2012)

No doubt the ugliest-looking camera I have seen in years (or at least since the Pentax K-01, which is pretty in comparison). They should be applauded for making a rather deep and sturdy grip though, many cameras today are slimmed down beyond what is really comfortable. I guess for many people the Nikon-badge is enough for them to overlook the toycam-look. The form factor should make this a much more comfortable camera to use than the previous 1-series cams.

3 upvotes
Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (Oct 26, 2012)

No it isn't pretty but it may be a vast improvement in handling and control over the V1. If so I am interested.

3 upvotes
Dimitris Servis
By Dimitris Servis (Oct 26, 2012)

A general remark for dpreview: would it make sense to have two lists of comments, one for comments and one for whiners?

9 upvotes
Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (Oct 26, 2012)

Where doe that place you? : )

2 upvotes
JesperMP
By JesperMP (Oct 26, 2012)

Make that one list for "functionality" and another for "appearance".

2 upvotes
Pat Cullinan Jr
By Pat Cullinan Jr (Oct 27, 2012)

>two lists of comments, one for comments and one for whiners

I must say that the signal-to-noise ratio sometimes gets pretty gruesome around here.

1 upvote
catchfire
By catchfire (Oct 26, 2012)

do you really purchase camera gear because it looks nice?

4 upvotes
Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (Oct 26, 2012)

Well it helps. But then if so then out goes all my Canon gear. Only left with my X100...or is that too obviously retro...oops off it goes.

0 upvotes
Franka T.L.
By Franka T.L. (Oct 26, 2012)

NO, but when competitors can do the same, even better, and look better, styled better still, then that's something Nikon should really cared about .. I applaud what Nikon try to aim for, but I think they are not doing it right. They have sacrifice too much on the ergonomics / size matrix .. and come up with something that's sort of half baked and not good either side of it unfortunately so far I can see , and the sensor size certainly leave some doubt when compared to equally compact ILC that use larger sensors

1 upvote
Rachotilko
By Rachotilko (Oct 26, 2012)

!@#$%, is this section an online herd mentality experiment or what ???

7 upvotes
AlpCns2
By AlpCns2 (Oct 26, 2012)

Finally somebody with a sense of humor! You are so right! Thank you sir.

0 upvotes
Pat Cullinan Jr
By Pat Cullinan Jr (Oct 27, 2012)

Welcome to the Stampede Society.

0 upvotes
Zoltan Csuka
By Zoltan Csuka (Oct 31, 2012)

No, it is not a herd mentality. It is just that bad looking of a camera ...

0 upvotes
SeeRoy
By SeeRoy (Oct 26, 2012)

Quite astonishing how the chorus of whining about the appearance continues. It's very revealing about the overall significance of cameras (and other consumer technology) for many people. Apart from ostentatious horrors like the SonyBlad the only questions are; what are the ergonomics like? and how's the IQ. I look forward to a full test.

13 upvotes
AlpCns2
By AlpCns2 (Oct 26, 2012)

Dang, that's the third intelligent comment I read here. If this continues I might even start paying attention to some comments. Thank you sir.

3 upvotes
Pat Cullinan Jr
By Pat Cullinan Jr (Oct 27, 2012)

Ergonomics and IQ. Right on target.

I too look forward to a full test. It may steer commentary toward more substantive foci.

0 upvotes
Ulfric M Douglas
By Ulfric M Douglas (Oct 26, 2012)

"...We didn't have competitive mirrorless cameras nearby to compare it to directly..."
Oh ... surely not. Someone must've had a NEX or a Pen ... but no.

1 upvote
hiplnsdrftr
By hiplnsdrftr (Oct 26, 2012)

That really reassures me, Dpreview doesn't have any cameras on hand.

0 upvotes
sandy b
By sandy b (Oct 26, 2012)

Probably not, it was at a photo convention after all.

0 upvotes
Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Oct 26, 2012)

It was in a conference room, at short notice. And my Sherpa, who carries EVERYCAMERAEVERMADE was sick that day.

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