Photokina 2012: Samsung Stand Report

Big, blue and very very connected. That's Samsung in 2012, and the Korean electronics giant has a large stand at this year's photokina, the better to showcase its range of compact and interchangeable lens cameras, all of which feature Wi-Fi connectivity. Samsung refreshed its entire NX lineup in 2012, and the new generation of APS-C format interchangeable lens cameras are pretty competitive, offering 20MP CMOS sensors and fast shooting rates, in bodies that offer some considerable refinements compared to earlier NX models.

But the real star of Samsung's show is the brand new Galaxy Camera - a compact camera running the Android mobile operating system, which offers Wi-Fi and full-time connectivity over 3G/4G. Pricing and availability is still TBC, but until such time as it ships, plenty of attendees were eager to get their hands on this unique hybrid device. 

Samsung's booth is massive, and the Korean manufacturer has provided plenty of 'touch and try' demonstration tables to show off its wares.  And the award for biggest Lego ship at the show goes to Samsung. And we didn't even know anyone was competing. But it's not the Titanic. It's definitely not the Titanic...
Two prototype lenses are on show. The first, a 45mm F1.8, is an inexpensive-feeling, short portrait lens... ...it's near enough to production that examples are available to be shot with on the stand, though you can't keep the images.
The 12-24mm F4-5.6 wide angle zoom, by contrast, is only visible through glass cases. It's very similar in size to the existing 18-55mm OIS lens.
The unique Samsung Galaxy Camera is a full-strength Android device, with full-on camera functionality. Both elements appear to mesh reasonably well (we've only handled pre-production units) but it's bigger than you might think. Here you can see the Android home screen. From the back, the Galaxy Camera looks extremely similar to the Galaxy SIII smartphone. 
The Galaxy Camera has all sorts of automatic modes, including one that takes five photos and lets you choose which version of each recognised face appears in the final image... ...alternatively there are PASM modes, with a very pretty touch-screen interface.
Samsung's entry-level NX camera, the NX1000, also comes in pink.  It's still pretty pink, even from behind.
The NX210, sucessor to the NX200, is perhaps our favourite NX yet. 20MP resolution, a great feature set, and more refined handling than its predecessor And built-in WiFi! Lest we forget...
The NX20 is Samsung's flagship NX, and features a built-in electronic viewfinder, for the full 'tiny DSLR' experience.  A flip-out screen is useful for shooting movies, and when taking pictures from awkward high and low angles. 
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Timmbits
By Timmbits (Sep 22, 2012)

Aside from Samyang's 85mm f:1.4, does anyone know of other lenses available for NX-mount from manufacturers other than Samsung?

Samsung's overuse of plastic plastic plastic makes me fantasize about alternatices.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Sep 22, 2012)

There are manual focus Rokinons, Bower, etc.

You can get an adapter and mount for Canon and Nikon lenses too, manual though.

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Thomas Wieser
By Thomas Wieser (Sep 20, 2012)

You can keep the images if you bring your own camera as they allow you to try the lenses on your own camera. And they had some 12-24 on cameras to try them as well. I was allowed to put both new lenses on my own camera. The staff was very friendly and most helpful.

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Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (Sep 20, 2012)

Nothing too suprising. Tho nice to see 12-24mm in "flesh", pretty big, guess it might be similar quality level as 85mm f1.4 from them.

Shame Samsung didnt make more (or showed). Only really interesting thing so far was Leica "M". And maybe A99 from Sony.

Hoped Samsung will show "something big"..

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Thomas Wieser
By Thomas Wieser (Sep 20, 2012)

While I hope for simiar quality level as 85mm lens, I think the 12-24 is not pretty big. It is leightweight and similar in size to the 18-55.

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (Sep 22, 2012)

@M: give them time to gain market share, and they'll make their move.
@TW: Lightweight as in all-plastic, including the lens mount? :-(

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Desverger
By Desverger (Sep 19, 2012)

The Galaxy camera looks kinda neat for what it is, however, now that I see it I'm kinda hoping that they never bring Android to the NX line.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Sep 19, 2012)

Quote from blurb above: "offering 20MP CMOS sensors and fast shooting rates, in bodies that offer some considerable refinements compared to earlier NX."

But can the NX210 and NX20 now shoot single raws quickly? The NX200 couldn't. The NX20 that I owned couldn't.

Did firmware update V1.0, asserted to increase the processing speed of photos shot in continuous, also increase the single raw shooting speed of the NX20 and maybe the NX210?

In the fall of 2011, Samsung really messed up releasing the NX200 with such a horrible shooting rate, and then Samsung compounded its problems by repeating the same mistake 8 months later with the NX20. Not bothering to answer customer questions submitted from the Samsung US website didn't help either.

Except for the slow startup speed, I don't have any other particular problem with the NX20, but it was so slow to shoot raws that I couldn't justify keeping it. Despite the staggering AMOLED screen.

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (Sep 22, 2012)

Do you read the reviews on this site?
According to
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/samsung-nx210/7
the latest generation shoot at 8fps for 11 frames for jpeg or 8 frames for RAW & RAW+jpeg, with write times of 8sec or 14sec respectively.
Seems OK to me. I am surprised that you did not see these results with the NX20 you owned.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Sep 22, 2012)

You're simply not reading what I wrote.

The problem with the NX20 is not continuous shooting speed, though then processing takes too long.

The problem is that one can't shoot SINGLE raws quickly, that means one can't shoot say 10 raws in 15 seconds.

Ironic, that you claimed I didn't read the NX210 review, when you clearly didn't read what I wrote above and clearly didn't read my comments on the NX2120 review weeks ago.

Samsung may have fixed this problem, but it was huge on the NX200 and then Samsung repeated with the NX20.

Also what part of "I owned" an NX20 is not clear?

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shademaster
By shademaster (Sep 19, 2012)

Hi Barney.

Did they give you guys release date estimates for the announced 45mm?

Thanks!

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Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Sep 19, 2012)

No, nothing, but we'll let you know when they're able to be more precise.

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Greynerd
By Greynerd (Sep 19, 2012)

NX1000 not NX100.

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zonoskar
By zonoskar (Sep 19, 2012)

How long did it take for the Galaxy cam to power-on? Or do they use the same sort of hybrid config as the Nikon Android camera does?

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